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loners4me Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:33am

# of games?
 
How many games do you officiate in a year? I just counted my schedule (note I do fifth grade girls - JV ball). My first game was Aug 15. and my last game is Feb 19. I average 20 nights per month + weekend tourneys so that's about 250 games a year.

My wife loves it ..ya right. Well she likes the $$ though.

You?


PS.. I only do BB

Junker Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:44am

I cut back this year, getting rid of all but 3 lower level games (below varsity). Somehow I still ended up with 40 nights and I'm sure that will go up as I sub in for some other varsity games. Season starts tomorrow for me, I'm thinking about it already.

JRutledge Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:49am

I work 3 sports and I probably do not work 250 all season around let alone one sport.

Peace

eyezen Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:21am

Nov 1 to Feb 29

I have 45 dates, 36 HS and 9 College.

grunewar Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:25am

I do two local rec leagues and sub-varsity. I look to have ~ 65 scheduled.

Splute Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:32am

Currently schedule for 30 dates (2 games per date) from Nov 28th till Dec 20th, I will receive additional dates starting Dec 2nd for remainder of season. and NO the wife is NOT onboard.... heavy sigh. And you mean we get paid for this?!?! :)

JugglingReferee Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by loners4me
How many games do you officiate in a year? I just counted my schedule (note I do fifth grade girls - JV ball). My first game was Aug 15. and my last game is Feb 19. I average 20 nights per month + weekend tourneys so that's about 250 games a year.

My wife loves it ..ya right. Well she likes the $$ though.

You?


PS.. I only do BB

Let me think here.

8 weeks of League 1 = 10-14 games + playoffs for 3 more = 13-17 total.
8 weeks of League 2 = 5-6 games + playoffs = 6-7 total.
6 weeks of League 3 = 12-15 games + playoffs = 13-16 total.
8 weeks of League 4 = 6 games. No playoffs yet. :(
8 weeks of League 5 = 8 games. Maybe some playoffs. 10 total.

All in all, about 48 to 58 games. That's for football.

Basketball, about 4 x 10 = 40.

Coltdoggs Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:38am

I mainly do rec, AAU, travel from 5th -8th...There is a hoops facility that runs house leagues that are made up of AAU teams and travel teams...I get some HS level games there...

In my main rec league, we start the second week of January and the tournament ends in mid March...I did 82 games there in that time span....Had about another 5-10 games from their travel program. I took about a month off then started at the hoops facility working on Sat and/or Sunday afternoons...I've probably done about 150-160 games in 2007...

Ref Ump Welsch Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:39am

I do football, basketball, softball, and track...between all those, I would say I do about 200 days/nights of some type of game/event. I'm not counting individual games, because slow-pitch softball tournaments usually throws me about 6-10 games on a day alone.

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splute
Currently schedule for 30 dates (2 games per date) from Nov 28th till Dec 20th, I will receive additional dates starting Dec 2nd for remainder of season. and NO the wife is NOT onboard.... heavy sigh. And you mean we get paid for this?!?! :)

Now, I was only a math major for one disastrous semester, but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to have 30 dates scheduled between 11-28 and 12-20.

My calendar shows me there's only 25 days there.

Splute Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:25pm

You need a new calender, eehhh?:rolleyes: Hum, me needs to restate... 15 dates; 30 games.... ya thats the ticket. Glad to see you read the posts... :) Plus the Upwards League basketball at church for 9-Saturdays starting Dec 15th (probably 5 games, but only 6th grade & below). Better??:D

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:27pm

:)

I thought we might be dealing with Kansas math there for a minute.

rockyroad Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:35pm

Just a pet peeve of mine, but who really cares how many games anyone else works?? Is this just for conversation sake, or are we comparing schedules - you know, the old "I have 48 Varsity games. How many do you have?" kind of thing...cause if that's what this is, that really bugs me!!

Splute Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
:)

I thought we might be dealing with Kansas math there for a minute.

again, you cut me to the bone!:p Perhaps Kansas.... Texas just sound the same to you?:cool: NOT... yeeee haaaa :)

Splute Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
Just a pet peeve of mine, but who really cares how many games anyone else works?? Is this just for conversation sake, or are we comparing schedules - you know, the old "I have 48 Varsity games. How many do you have?" kind of thing...cause if that's what this is, that really bugs me!!

I didnt take this post that way, Rocky. But I suppose you can read into it what you will. Seemed like Sunday afternoon conversation to me. I dont think most people on this site really gives a Rat tootie what level the others call. We just like to compare notes on unusual game sits and rulings. jmo;)

Jurassic Referee Fri Nov 09, 2007 01:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splute
I dont think most people on this site really gives a Rat tootie what level the others call.

And I don't think that most people on this site really give a rat's patootie about how many games anybody calls either. Be that as it may though, to each their own. Those who care can respond. Those who don't can ignore.

Ob-la-di
Ob-la-da
Life goes on, bra
Lalalala life goes on.

Jurassic Referee Fri Nov 09, 2007 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
.... that really bugs me!!

If you ain't a sisyphus, does that mean that you're a pusillanimous?:confused:

tjones1 Fri Nov 09, 2007 02:23pm

Currently, 32 scheduled games (with 1 down). Looking forward to an exciting and fun season. My schedule gets fully underway during Turkey week.

grunewar Fri Nov 09, 2007 02:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splute
I didnt take this post that way, Rocky. But I suppose you can read into it what you will. Seemed like Sunday afternoon conversation to me. I dont think most people on this site really gives a Rat tootie what level the others call. We just like to compare notes on unusual game sits and rulings. jmo;)

Concur - It's also interesting for me to read how other refs talk about how their spouse reacts to their often aggressive schedule.....I know between my reffing schedule and attending my son's games (read - asst coach, score keeper, clock, gym coordinator, whatever....) etc., it often gets pretty tense around my house this time of yr..... :p

I can only imagine what it's like to those who do 100+ games a yr......

rgncjn Fri Nov 09, 2007 03:48pm

68 Total
59 HS
09 College

blindzebra Fri Nov 09, 2007 03:49pm

During the "off season" I average between 15-20 games a week...March-November...36 weeks = 540-720 games, most likely around 600 or so.

In season I'll normally do around 50 or so HS games, another 100 or so MS or youth games.


So 750 seems about right.

bigdog5142 Fri Nov 09, 2007 03:53pm

My schedule is pretty open right now, but I try to do at least one game per week if not two or three. I'm doing mainly HS (Frosh, JV and Varsity) as well as some JH boys/girls. (My JH girls league is in the Fall.) I have some JV/Varsity doubles...so that'd be two games in one night. So...I'd say about 50 or so.

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 04:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra
During the "off season" I average between 15-20 games a week...March-November...36 weeks = 540-720 games, most likely around 600 or so.

In season I'll normally do around 50 or so HS games, another 100 or so MS or youth games.


So 750 seems about right.

While I miss the idea of off-season basketball. That's too much for me. I couldn't afford the child-support payments that would come with that kind of schedule.

Bearfanmike20 Fri Nov 09, 2007 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
While I miss the idea of off-season basketball. That's too much for me. I couldn't afford the child-support payments that would come with that kind of schedule.

Thats what I was thinking... LOL

just a rough estimate.. if he gets... lets say $30 a game...

Thats $22500 a year.. thats some peoples anual income. :eek:

So I guess if you are doing that ammount of games you can afford the child support. ;)

Coltdoggs Fri Nov 09, 2007 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
Thats what I was thinking... LOL

just a rough estimate.. if he gets... lets say $30 a game...

Thats $22500 a year.. thats some peoples anual income. :eek:

So I guess if you are doing that ammount of games you can afford the child support. ;)

I dunno...with the apartment rent and his own utilities...it might be tight! :D

tomegun Fri Nov 09, 2007 06:24pm

Just a question, not trying to offend anyone.

Do your wives have other things for you to do or is it just the idea of being home and not being at a game?

I would like to think my situation isn't so strange. My wife knows this is something I like to do. My wife also knows I like to hang out with her - and we are together plenty. I don't know, maybe we are strange, but the basketball season isn't an issue and never has been.

JRutledge Fri Nov 09, 2007 06:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun
Just a question, not trying to offend anyone.

Do your wives have other things for you to do or is it just the idea of being home and not being at a game?

I would like to think my situation isn't so strange. My wife knows this is something I like to do. My wife also knows I like to hang out with her - and we are together plenty. I don't know, maybe we are strange, but the basketball season isn't an issue and never has been.

Speaking as a single person. If the requirement to be married is to always be attached to my wife (when I come home every single night) then personally that is not a very good endorsement of being married. I would hope that you could work a game and not be at a major loss to my family. For one thing it is income, not just a good time hanging out. I hear officials all the time think I am always out in the street because I work 3 sports which is the furthest from the truth. I am home more than I work games by far in my 3 sports as compared to what I am reading here about guys who only work just basketball.

Peace

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 06:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun
Just a question, not trying to offend anyone.

Do your wives have other things for you to do or is it just the idea of being home and not being at a game?

I would like to think my situation isn't so strange. My wife knows this is something I like to do. My wife also knows I like to hang out with her - and we are together plenty. I don't know, maybe we are strange, but the basketball season isn't an issue and never has been.

Legitimate questions, IMO.

My wife is the same way. She also likes the extra dollars we get from it.

However, we have two young children and she likes having me around to help with them. :)
But here, it's not uncommon for me to have to drive an hour each way to a game, so unless I have a single JV game in town, I'm pretty much away all evening.

Also, once a month I'm gone for a weekend for Guard duty. She really doesn't mind me reffing, but I think if I was doing 10-15 games a week all year long, it would get really old. That's the main reason I haven't picked up another sport, to be honest.

One reason we have plenty of time together, though, is the fact that I'm not working 700 games a year. I'd never see her or the kids, and I'm not really interested in that kind of lifestyle.

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 06:44pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Speaking as a single person. If the requirement to be married is to always be attached to my wife (when I come home every single night) then personally that is not a very good endorsement of being married. I would hope that you could work a game and not be at a major loss to my family. For one thing it is income, not just a good time hanging out. I hear officials all the time think I am always out in the street because I work 3 sports which is the furthest from the truth. I am home more than I work games by far in my 3 sports as compared to what I am reading here about guys who only work just basketball.

Peace

It's not about having to be home every night. If someone needs to be home every night, this isn't the avocation they should choose.

It's about not wanting to be gone every night. We were talking about a 750 game/per year work-load. That kind of a schedule would be very hard on my family; I may as well be away on military duty as far as my kids would be concerned, as they'd be in bed most nights before I got home.

As it is now, most nights I ref, I'm home just in time to put them to bed unless my games are here in town. Yeah, I'm at least home in time to see them before they close their eyes, but I wouldn't want to do that year-round. I'm guessing I'll have fewer games in town this year as I get more varsity games, but it's only a guess.

As for the original question on this thread, I don't know my schedule yet. Our assigner will be handing the first half out next Wednesday. They do things a bit different here than I'm used to.

oldschool Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:15pm

I do basketball almost 12 months. I do youth tournaments on weekends middle school (usually 2 games a night. frosh and JV during the week. Leagues and tournaments in the summer. I did around 300 games last year and will do about the same.

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:16pm

Hmmmmmm.

26 Year Gap Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldschool
I do basketball almost 12 months. I do youth tournaments on weekends middle school (usually 2 games a night. frosh and JV during the week. Leagues and tournaments in the summer. I did around 300 games last year and will do about the same.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

The regs know what I am talking about here.

26 Year Gap Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:24pm

I try to limit myself to about a 35 games schedule. Plus 3-5 scrimmages. I will do about 25 AAU games in the spring. If I was younger and singler, I would probably do more. It pays for my golf. It gives me some exercise. I enjoy the activity. I've met a lot of great folks. And by the time I get home, the dog has been walked.

Adam Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
I try to limit myself to about a 35 games schedule. Plus 3-5 scrimmages. I will do about 25 AAU games in the spring. If I was younger and singler, I would probably do more. It pays for my golf. It gives me some exercise. I enjoy the activity. I've met a lot of great folks. And by the time I get home, the dog has been walked.

I would change this to the diaper has been changed.

:D

26 Year Gap Fri Nov 09, 2007 07:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I would change this to the diaper has been changed.

:D

It was for Chuck's benefit. A little chatroom humor.

Scrapper1 Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:53pm

I currently have 28 college dates. I don't have my high school schedule yet, but I'll probably limit that to about 15 games. I donate a few freebies for local team fundraisers, and I do about 15 summer league (high school age) games each year. Plus there's camp games, but I don't think we're counting those, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splute
I dont think most people on this site really gives a Rat tootie what level the others call.

Wasn't that a Pixar movie, with the mouse who liked to cook? My daughter loved that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad
if that's what this is, that really bugs me!!

That was a different Pixar movie, I think.

Splute Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:54pm

cute scrappy, cute...

Texas Aggie Sun Nov 11, 2007 02:41pm

I work a lot during football so now, when basketball comes around, I don't work as much as I did years ago. I think I got close to 100 games my second year in hoops, but I only worked maybe 50 each the last 2 years. This year, probably more like 35 (in hoops after about 40 -- so far -- in football) is what I guess I'll end up with.

Next year, it will be more like 30-35 in football and about 35 in hoops. I like the sports, but I don't want to be gone 5 nights a week. 2 is better: thursdays and fridays in football; tuesdays and fridays in hoops.

loners4me Mon Nov 12, 2007 09:51am

For me it is something to do on those cold, dark winter nights. I value my summers too much and only work basketball.

Around here most games start at 4PM so I'm home with the wife and kids by 6:30. It takes its' toll though.

When HS starts threy are all 6:00 starts.

I could go to the YMCA and run laps or ref basketball and get paid. Either way I get my exercise. - I'm 30 yrs. old though and can invision slowing down as the years go by.

Mark Dexter Mon Nov 12, 2007 04:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I currently have 28 college dates.

Does your wife know about those, Scrappy?

And aren't you a bit old to be dating college-aged women? (Or men - not that there's anything wrong with it!)

Adam Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:13pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Does your wife know about those, Scrappy?

And aren't you a bit old to be dating college-aged women? (Or men - not that there's anything wrong with it!)

Sounds like a certain former Big 12 men's basketball coach. Wait, those weren't dates, they were parties.

oldschool Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:24pm

26 year gap. What was the meaning of your response?

Adam Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:26pm

I'll answer. It was a reference to a troll who walked these halls previously with a handle very similar (dare I say identical) to yours.

Mark Padgett Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I would change this to the diaper has been changed.:D

My son, whose son is almost two, says that no matter how much of an pessimist you are, the diaper is never half empty. ;)

oldschool Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:39pm

O.K. makes sense. I am new to the officiating scene and found this website looking for rules interpretations etc. Was my first post. Enjoy the site and hopefully can get responses to some questions as they come up. Thanks

Adam Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldschool
O.K. makes sense. I am new to the officiating scene and found this website looking for rules interpretations etc. Was my first post. Enjoy the site and hopefully can get responses to some questions as they come up. Thanks

Good luck to you, and welcome to the forum.

Adam Mon Nov 12, 2007 05:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
My son, whose son is almost two, says that no matter how much of an pessimist you are, the diaper is never half empty. ;)

My son is just passed two, and I concur with your son.

Yeah sure, 26 pounds.

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 12, 2007 06:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
My son is just passed two......

Just passed two what?

Camron Rust Mon Nov 12, 2007 06:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldschool
26 year gap. What was the meaning of your response?

oldschool, you have the misfortune of having picked a name very similar to that of a recently departed and very vocal troll....a guy who really didn't have a clue what going on and was always giving bad advice.

If you happen to get a response that seems to be out of place, perhaps it is someone who thinks you are other person. You might wish to chose a different name to avoid any confusion.


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