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Jim Henry Mon Nov 05, 2007 03:23pm

Over and back?
 
I’m trying to find in the rule and/or the case book for this reference.

A1 throws-in at endline near A’s basket. The throw-in is touched by A2 in A’s frontcourt near the division line. Touched ball goes into backcourt, and A2 retrieves, and throws to A3 in A’s front court. Violation? I’m thinking that there was no player or team control prior to ball crossing division line, therefore no violation. Correct?

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 05, 2007 03:29pm

Case book play 4.12.6(b)

Indianaref Mon Nov 05, 2007 03:33pm

Correct. No team control established, no violation.

Rufus Mon Nov 05, 2007 04:17pm

Just so I'm sure
 
There is no team control established just because it deflected off of A2, correct? That directly addresses 9-9-1 where "A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt." Because there was no team control (yet), no backcourt?

Adam Mon Nov 05, 2007 04:19pm

Correct. Team control is not established by a tip or deflection. Team control is not established until player control is established.

Mark Padgett Mon Nov 05, 2007 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Correct. Team control is not established by a tip or deflection. Team control is not established until player control is established.

Perhaps we should also state that player control is established when a player on the court is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. A tap or a deflection is not "holding or dribbling".

Adam Mon Nov 05, 2007 04:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Perhaps we should also state that player control is established when a player on the court is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. A tap or a deflection is not "holding or dribbling".

We could do that, I suppose. Do you want to take care of that for me?

Mark Padgett Mon Nov 05, 2007 05:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
We could do that, I suppose. Do you want to take care of that for me?

For a modest fee. ;)


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