Kids rec league coaches rules test

[Coltdoggs]

I'll have to use this tonight at my meeting....

Mark, your royalty check is in the mail....

[buckrog64]

If some of the coaches want to whine about a 10 question test, just bring out the 50 question test the IowaGHSAU offers on-line or the NF test....

those questions were good because a lot of the stuff is more likely to happen during the game rather than some of the NF stuff they dream up for their tests....

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

We had our kids rec league draft for our girls league last night. As usual, I gave the coaches a rules test. We use NF rules. These were the 10 T/F questions. Not one of the approximately 50 coaches who were there got them all correct. One guy got 8 of them wrong!


1) ON AN INBOUND PLAY, IF THE INBOUNDER MOVES MORE THAN THREE FEET BACKWARDS BEFORE INBOUNDING, IT’S A TRAVEL VIOLATION

2) A PLAYER CANNOT BEGIN A LEGAL DRIBBLE BY PUSHING THE BALL TO THE FLOOR WITH BOTH HANDS

3) PLAYERS MAY PLAY WITH EARRINGS AS LONG AS THEY ARE COVERED TIGHTLY WITH MASKING TAPE

4) WHEN INBOUNDING IN THE FRONT COURT, IT IS A VIOLATION TO INBOUND THE BALL TO A PLAYER IN THE BACK COURT

5) IF A PLAYER DIVES FOR A LOOSE BALL, GRABS THE BALL AND THEIR MOMENTUM CAUSES THEM TO SLIDE, IT IS A TRAVELING VIOLATION

6) IF AN INBOUNDER IS HOLDING THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS AND A DEFENDER REACHES ACROSS THE LINE AND PUTS BOTH HANDS ON THE BALL, IT IS A HELD BALL

7) IF A PLAYER SHOOTS AN AIR BALL, THAT PLAYER CANNOT BE THE FIRST TO TOUCH THE BALL BEFORE IT COMES DOWN AND HITS THE FLOOR

8) IF A PLAYER IS HOLDING THE BALL AND A DEFENDER HITS THE BALL HANDLER'S HAND CAUSING THE BALL TO BECOME LOOSE, IT IS A PERSONAL FOUL

9) IF A PLAYER REACHES OVER ANOTHER PLAYER’S BACK TO GRAB THE BALL WITHOUT MAKING CONTACT, IT IS A PERSONAL FOUL

10) IF A PLAYER IS DRIBBLING AND BOUNCES THE BALL OFF THEIR FOOT, THEY CANNOT RUN AND RECOVER THE LOOSE BALL

Ok I'm trying to see the variations for FIBA with this response so anyone who is familiar with FIBA help me out if I am wrong.

1) F - 17.3.1
2) F - 24.1.1
3) F - 4.4.2
4) T - 30.1.2
5) T - 25.2.3 ???
6) F - 17.3.2
7) F - 14.3 & 24.2
8) T - 33.10 ???
9) F - 32.1.1 & 33.2
10) F - 24.1.2

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Ok I'm trying to see the variations for FIBA with this response so anyone who is familiar with FIBA help me out if I am wrong.

1) F - 17.3.1
2) F - 24.1.1
3) F - 4.4.2
4) T - 30.1.2
5) T - 25.2.3 ???
6) F - 17.3.2
7) F - 14.3 & 24.2
8) T - 33.10 ???
9) F - 32.1.1 & 33.2
10) F - 24.1.2

The reference for #5 is correct: there is no provision for allowing the player to slide if he/she has already catched the ball.

The same for #8: there is no "hand-in-contact-with-the-ball" rule any more. The official has to judge whether an advantage is gained by the player who is responsible of the contact. It is almost obvious that making the ball loose by hitting the hand of the ball handler is an advantage.

Also #4 is correct, because in FIBA a spot throw-in is either in the front court or in the back court, depending on the spot, except when the throw-in is from the division line (starting of quarters, after T or U fouls, after a time out in the last two minutes). And, most important, there is team control during a throw-in.

Ciao

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Ok I'm trying to see the variations for FIBA

Holy crap. A quiz written by Padgett with answers given in FIBA. I think the whole site is about to go out of existence in a huge matter/anti-matter explosion!!

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Holy crap. A quiz written by Padgett with answers given in FIBA. I think the whole site is about to go out of existence in a huge matter/anti-matter explosion!!

The WORLD, She is a Changing!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Holy crap. A quiz written by Padgett with answers given in FIBA. I think the whole site is about to go out of existence in a huge matter/anti-matter explosion!!

I just saw some pigs fly past my window! And look - Mel Gibson's SOBER!!! It's the apocalypse.

[jer166]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

We had our kids rec league draft for our girls league last night. As usual, I gave the coaches a rules test. We use NF rules. These were the 10 T/F questions. Not one of the approximately 50 coaches who were there got them all correct. One guy got 8 of them wrong!


1) ON AN INBOUND PLAY, IF THE INBOUNDER MOVES MORE THAN THREE FEET BACKWARDS BEFORE INBOUNDING, IT’S A TRAVEL VIOLATION

2) A PLAYER CANNOT BEGIN A LEGAL DRIBBLE BY PUSHING THE BALL TO THE FLOOR WITH BOTH HANDS

3) PLAYERS MAY PLAY WITH EARRINGS AS LONG AS THEY ARE COVERED TIGHTLY WITH MASKING TAPE

4) WHEN INBOUNDING IN THE FRONT COURT, IT IS A VIOLATION TO INBOUND THE BALL TO A PLAYER IN THE BACK COURT

5) IF A PLAYER DIVES FOR A LOOSE BALL, GRABS THE BALL AND THEIR MOMENTUM CAUSES THEM TO SLIDE, IT IS A TRAVELING VIOLATION

6) IF AN INBOUNDER IS HOLDING THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS AND A DEFENDER REACHES ACROSS THE LINE AND PUTS BOTH HANDS ON THE BALL, IT IS A HELD BALL

7) IF A PLAYER SHOOTS AN AIR BALL, THAT PLAYER CANNOT BE THE FIRST TO TOUCH THE BALL BEFORE IT COMES DOWN AND HITS THE FLOOR

8) IF A PLAYER IS HOLDING THE BALL AND A DEFENDER HITS THE BALL HANDLER'S HAND CAUSING THE BALL TO BECOME LOOSE, IT IS A PERSONAL FOUL

9) IF A PLAYER REACHES OVER ANOTHER PLAYER’S BACK TO GRAB THE BALL WITHOUT MAKING CONTACT, IT IS A PERSONAL FOUL

10) IF A PLAYER IS DRIBBLING AND BOUNCES THE BALL OFF THEIR FOOT, THEY CANNOT RUN AND RECOVER THE LOOSE BALL

GOOD LUCK!

[Mark Padgett]

Incredibly, I ran into one of those coaches last night (no, not with my car) and he said he didn't believe all the questions were false. I asked him to tell me which ones he thought were true and he said he couldn't remember the numbers but he "was absolutely positive" at least three of them were true. I told him he was "absolutely wrong" and that if he came to the next officials meeting, I would be glad to have the entire group of officials go over the test with him.

He said he gets enough humiliation by coaching, and he didn't need any more.

[Coltdoggs]

As a follow up...I handed out my 10 questions last night...I gave them a couple of minutes to read through and answer...

I asked them first if anyone had more than 5 false answers, then 6 then 7, more than 7 and only one hand stayed up....That one hand was from a guy who has coached in our league for the past couple years and also is a fellow official...Most of them had 5 or 6 correct...

I was surprised by my group's results...we seem to have a good group of 12 this year (not from a rules standpoint) but everyone was echoing some of my sentiments about staying focused on their kids play during the game rather than the officials.....We'll see how long that lasts!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

but everyone was echoing some of my sentiments about staying focused on their kids play during the game rather than the officials.....We'll see how long that lasts!

Based on my experience and observation, I'd say about until the opening tip of the first game - if you're lucky.