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Rick Durkee Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:07am

Wrong Way! Wrong Goal?
 
At the start of the second half, the teams play in the wrong direction. None of the officials, players, or coaches recognize the problem. After a couple of minutes elapse and teams make a couple of goals, somebody informs the players on Team A that they are going the wrong way. A1, who is near the goal that should be have been hers had the teams played the correct direction, tosses that ball into that basket. The officials now stop play.

Rule 4-5-4 implies that the last goal scored by A1 should be counted for team B. Does that sound correct?

Second, if an official hears the person inform team A players they are going the wrong way, should he/she stop the game to prevent A1 from throwing the ball into the "wrong goal"? Or, should the official allow the player to finish the play before stopping the game?

bob jenkins Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:16am

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Originally Posted by Rick Durkee
At the start of the second half, the teams play in the wrong direction. None of the officials, players, or coaches recognize the problem. After a couple of minutes elapse and teams make a couple of goals, somebody informs the players on Team A that they are going the wrong way. A1, who is near the goal that should be have been hers had the teams played the correct direction, tosses that ball into that basket. The officials now stop play.

Rule 4-5-4 implies that the last goal scored by A1 should be counted for team B. Does that sound correct?

Second, if an official hears the person inform team A players they are going the wrong way, should he/she stop the game to prevent A1 from throwing the ball into the "wrong goal"? Or, should the official allow the player to finish the play before stopping the game?

Yes, yes, no.

PYRef Fri Nov 02, 2007 02:31pm

If it were me I would count everything that happened up to the point that the error was discovered and we stopped play at the next dead ball.
Then just switch them around the right way and keep going.

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Rule 4-5-4 implies that the last goal scored by A1 should be counted for team B. Does that sound correct?
I'm not counting the goal for the other team if someone yells it out in the middle of a play.

Dead ball...inform both teams...switch sides...play on.

NCAAREF Fri Nov 02, 2007 04:03pm

Dead Ball?
 
Why does someone yelling it out make it a dead ball? :D

jer166 Fri Nov 02, 2007 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Durkee
At the start of the second half, the teams play in the wrong direction. None of the officials, players, or coaches recognize the problem. After a couple of minutes elapse and teams make a couple of goals, somebody informs the players on Team A that they are going the wrong way. A1, who is near the goal that should be have been hers had the teams played the correct direction, tosses that ball into that basket. The officials now stop play.

Rule 4-5-4 implies that the last goal scored by A1 should be counted for team B. Does that sound correct?

The rule states ...when discovered, all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. The official discovered the error when he stopped play and after the goal was scored. IMO the goal counts.

However, if the official recognized the error and was in the process of stopping play before the goal was scoredthe goal does not count.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Durkee
Second, if an official hears the person inform team A players they are going the wrong way, should he/she stop the game to prevent A1 from throwing the ball into the "wrong goal"? Or, should the official allow the player to finish the play before stopping the game?

IMO, the official should stop the play as soon as he knows the teams are going the wrong way. However, if a player had a wide-open opportunity to score at his basket, I would hold my whistle until after the play. I can't see any valid reason to withhold the whistle in the OP and allow a player to score at the opponent's goal.

Nevadaref Fri Nov 02, 2007 09:57pm

Bob J is right.

Rick Durkee Mon Nov 05, 2007 05:57pm

Thank you!


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