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dahoopref Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:46pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Can you elaborate on this a minute, or point me to some resources? I'm curious about what "overpronate" means.

Overpronate means that you roll toward the arches of your feet when you run or walk. It tends to happen to people who have flat feet and no arch in their foot. This type of foot movement is not normal and can affect your knees because they end up rolling inward also.

The best way to combat overpronation is to wear an orthodic or have a shoe that is built for motion control. I do not recommend the Nike Shox because they tend to not have enough motion control. The Nike Force line of shoes are built for big guys and thus have better motion control.

The best shoe for overpronation is one that is straight lasted and you usually only find those in running shoes; running shoes are made with a carbon bottom sole (not rubber) and can make unwanted mark ups the basketball court really good.

tomegun Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:33pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Can you elaborate on this a minute, or point me to some resources? I'm curious about what "overpronate" means.

Also, what steps have you taken to make the combat boots more comfortable? As of now, I'm only wearing them a few days a month, but there's a very high probability that could change soon, so I'm trying to think ahead.

What do you think of the ABUs?

Pronation is the inward (medial) roll of the foot and in particular the heel and arch which occurs naturally at the heel strike as a cushioning mechanism.
Overpronation is when the feet roll inward too much.


I wear some flat insoles with my orthodics on top of them in my boots. Boots are boots, but this makes them a little better.


I think the situation with the ABUs is ignorant. For one, they didn't have enough of them to bring them out. Currently I need pants and a hat. I don't know how long it will take to get them. As far as the design goes, I don't like what they came up with. They are basically our current uniform, with a different color and a arm and leg pocket. They are freaking out already about people ironing them and sewing the pockets down.

NEohioref Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:54am

Just wait till I get my Dieblers!!:eek:

refnrev Sun Oct 28, 2007 02:18pm

[QUOTE=dahoopref]Overpronate means that you roll toward the arches of your feet when you run or walk. It tends to happen to people who have flat feet and no arch in their foot. This type of foot movement is not normal and can affect your knees because they end up rolling inward also.

The best way to combat overpronation is to wear an orthodic or have a shoe that is built for motion control. I do not recommend the Nike Shox because they tend to not have enough motion control. The Nike Force line of shoes are built for big guys and thus have better motion control.

The best shoe for overpronation is one that is straight lasted and you usually only find those in running shoes; running shoes are made with a carbon bottom sole (not rubber) and can make unwanted mark ups the basketball court really good.[/QUOTE
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If you ever order running shoes from East Bat you will notice they will be listed as lightweight, cushioned, or cushioned support. Each one is built for your type of pronation. Always helped me get the right shoes!

rainmaker Sun Oct 28, 2007 02:44pm

There's also underpronating, and ironically, often the same inserts can "cure" both, at least according to my podiatrist. They aren't made to correct one problem, but rather to stabilize the foot and spread the stress and distribute the work to all the muscles. According to my podiatrist. The ones he recommends, and they worked wonders for me, are Superfeet.

grunewar Sun Oct 28, 2007 02:58pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
There's also underpronating, and ironically, often the same inserts can "cure" both, at least according to my podiatrist. They aren't made to correct one problem, but rather to stabilize the foot and spread the stress and distribute the work to all the muscles. According to my podiatrist. The ones he recommends, and they worked wonders for me, are Superfeet.

I find it easier to buy running shoes than referee shoes. Running shoes are made by what type of feet you have - weather you over or under pronate, how much you weigh, how far you run, types of surface, etc.

Referee shoes - I have less idea and just went with 2 x NB for their comfort and so I can swap em out if my feet hurt......or they start to smell really bad!

rainmaker Sun Oct 28, 2007 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar
I find it easier to buy running shoes than referee shoes. Running shoes are made by what type of feet you have - weather you over or under pronate, how much you weigh, how far you run, types of surface, etc.

Referee shoes - I have less idea and just went with 2 x NB for their comfort and so I can swap em out if my feet hurt......or they start to smell really bad!

Referee shoes are just running shoes marketed to referees, right? What you're buying are high end running shoes that are customized for small groups -- these shoes for people who overpronate and run on cinder track, those shoes for people who underpronate and run in the forest, and so on.

I buy cheap, generic all-black running shoes and put in the inserts I need for my feet, use Sharpie on the silver logo stuff. THen I call them custom referee shoes -- since they are custom designed just for me! :)

tomegun Sun Oct 28, 2007 07:13pm

Depends on who you ask. My referee shoes are not running shoes. I get shoes for basketball because of the support they provide. Just today in a scrimmage, I had to stop and change direction. I thought about it at the time and realized running shoes would have made that move way more difficult.

Juulie, if your doctor "prescribed" Superfeet, you are blessed. I was past needing Superfeet by the time I made it to the doctor - I don't even know if they had them back then. I don't have to wear my custom orthodics nearly as much as I used to. I had my third steroid shot within the last year. Talk about something painful. The last time the doctor basically burned me with the cold spray he used to numb my foot. Way to go Doc!

Texas Aggie Sun Oct 28, 2007 08:43pm

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Referee shoes are just running shoes marketed to referees, right?
Nope. Most are court or tennis type shoes. The rest are mostly cross trainer types.

I wear running shoes. It is a tall order to find them in black or mostly black, but it can be done.

dahoopref Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
Nope. Most are court or tennis type shoes. The rest are mostly cross trainer types.

I wear running shoes. It is a tall order to find them in black or mostly black, but it can be done.

Just be mindful that the outsole of running shoes are made of carbon. Carbon outsoles tend to leave scuff marks on the wood floor. I've seen this happen on many games.

There is a reason that basketball shoes' outsoles are made of rubber. They give better traction and are better for wood floors.

SmokeEater Mon Oct 29, 2007 09:02am

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater
I went to NikeId to design some shoes, chose the Shox R4's. Whenit was all said and done they wanted $170.00. Changed my mind. Went on Ebay and found some R4's All black for alot cheaper. I like them so far, authentic off the shelf all black shoes with only a little white reflective on the toe and heels (easily covered by marker). I hope they last the year I am concerned about the shox blowing out.

Update: 6 games in so far this season and I can't be happier with these Shox R4's. I usually end up with some knee pain after working a weekend of games, club ball 2-3 games a day. So far not even a hint of pain and the shoes are very comfortable.

TRef21 Wed Oct 31, 2007 01:43am

I got those new all black nike shocks. Looks like a cross trainer. Suede and that regular shoe material. I must say they are comfortbale to run in. I'm shox guy and I would recommend that shoe. If you have weak ankles brace up. Mine are weak so I will wear my braces with them. They are very comfortable.

Bearfanmike20 Wed Oct 31, 2007 08:27am

New balance 381...

I wanted nikes... I love nike.. but couldn't find an all black. :(

ronny mulkey Wed Oct 31, 2007 02:36pm

Cloverdale,

When I do a search on NB website for 8810's, it can't find them???

Do you have picture or something?

Mulk

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 31, 2007 03:03pm

Got my new NB 888's from Honigs on Monday. I've been wearing them ever since. Very comfortable. Very roomy (I ordered the 4E width). I'm going to like these, I think.


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