Question from Missouri

eyezen

refnrev wrote
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After knowing about this change for four years?:confused: Interesting.

The home team is still obligated to wear white, see point #4.

SWMOzebra

It was my understanding from the Springfield meeting that 1 technical foul was to be issued for illegal uniforms as opposed to 1 for each player entering the game in an illegal uniform. Perhaps the local rules guru here hadn't seen the memo from MSHSAA either.

truerookie

SWMOzebra wrote
It was my understanding from the Springfield meeting that 1 technical foul was to be issued for illegal uniforms as opposed to 1 for each player entering the game in an illegal uniform. Perhaps the local rules guru here hadn't seen the memo from MSHSAA either.

Correct, he cleared that up in Lebanon on 16 Oct 2007.

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budjones05 wrote
Hey, I went to the Warrensburg Rule Meeting and I was wondering if you can help me understand some of the new rules.

1. If a illegal uniform is found, the starting 5 gets one t each. Any sub that enters, they will be hit with a T as well. Does this mean that each time the same sub comes in and then comes out gets a T?

Only penalized once per player. Note: Kansas has set aside that rule as too onerous and instead has implemented a "One T" rule. One team technical for all violations. Better check with MSHSAA to make sure they are not following suit.

Mark Padgett

KSRef07 wrote
Only penalized once per player. Note: Kansas has set aside that rule as too onerous and instead has implemented a "One T" rule. One team technical for all violations. Better check with MSHSAA to make sure they are not following suit.

"following suit" HAHAHAHA - is this the "pun" thread? 😕

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Mark Padgett wrote
"following suit" HAHAHAHA - is this the "pun" thread? :confused:

I guess I am at the "top" of my game.

just another ref

Scrapper1 wrote
When do team members on the bench become players?

3-3-3
A substitute becomes a player when he/she legally enters the court.

A player becomes bench personnel after his/her substitute becomes a player....

And as Jurassic pointed out, these technical fouls are listed under player technicals in section 3 of Rule 10, not substitute technicals (section 2) or bench technicals (section 4).

My point was the technical is one or the other, it cannot be both, can it?

Scrapper1

just another ref wrote
3-3-3
A substitute becomes a player when he/she legally enters the court.

Right! So all those bench personnel people become players as soon as they come on the floor (legally) for the jump ball. They are players, not substitutes; so any technical for the illegal jersey will be a player technical and NOT charged indirectly to the head coach.

My point was the technical is one or the other, it cannot be both, can it?

You are correct, because a team member cannot be both a substitute AND a player. Therefore, any technical foul assessed to a team member must be EITHER a substitute technical OR a player technical.

Nevadaref

KSRef07 wrote
Only penalized once per player. Note: Kansas has set aside that rule as too onerous and instead has implemented a "One T" rule. One team technical for all violations. Better check with MSHSAA to make sure they are not following suit.

BTW I believe that is how the NCAA does it.

dblref

eyezen wrote
Bud, although correct by rule, the interpreter at your meeting apparently didn't get the memo from Columbia:

Truerookie is correct, the last sentence of point #3 sums it up...

http://www.mshsaa.org/Activities/Info/Basketball_News_Basketball_content.aspx?viewmode=story&storyid=4

Sentence #4 sates: "Designated varsity home teams that do not have the required home white jerseys shall be issued the required technical foul penalties." In sentence #5, it states this isn't true for sub-varsity contests.

budjones05

eyezen wrote
Bud, although correct by rule, the interpreter at your meeting apparently didn't get the memo from Columbia:

Truerookie is correct, the last sentence of point #3 sums it up...

http://www.mshsaa.org/Activities/Info/Basketball_News_Basketball_content.aspx?viewmode=story&storyid=4

Just right after the meeting.....

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