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Adam Sat Sep 29, 2007 04:24pm

Accounting Software
 
I've just purchased a new computer for home, and need to also purchase a new accounting program (MS Money, Quicken, Quickbooks, etc.) and was wondering if any of you had any suggestions for something that works well with officiating needs.

Mark Padgett Sat Sep 29, 2007 05:24pm

I just use an abacus and record the info onto parchment with a quill pen.

Seriously, what do you want to record? I just keep my schedule in my Outlook calendar and I keep track of pay, mileage and other expenses in Excel.

Adam Sat Sep 29, 2007 05:31pm

That's what I do now, as well, but those are the things I'm looking to maybe integrate. Expenses, mileage, accounts receiveable, accounts payable, etc. Just wondering if there's something cheaper than Quicken Home and Business that has the features I'd use.

just another ref Sat Sep 29, 2007 07:24pm

Where it says ss# put BR-549. Then go cash your checks at a 7-11 where nobody speaks English.

Mark Padgett Sat Sep 29, 2007 07:40pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref
Where it says ss# put BR-549. Then go cash your checks at a 7-11 where nobody speaks English.

I went to my local 7-11 the other night around 10 pm. The kid was locking up. I said, "Aren't you open 24 hours?" He replied, "Duh - not in a row!"

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JugglingReferee Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:25pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I went to my local 7-11 the other night around 10 pm. The kid was locking up. I said, "Aren't you open 24 hours?" He replied, "Duh - not in a row!"

Shouldn't 7-11 close at 11? :confused: :eek:

WhistlesAndStripes Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:20pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I went to my local 7-11 the other night around 10 pm. The kid was locking up. I said, "Aren't you open 24 hours?" He replied, "Duh - not in a row!"

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../smilielol.gif

This joke stolen from Steven Wright.

Camron Rust Sun Sep 30, 2007 02:53am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I've just purchased a new computer for home, and need to also purchase a new accounting program (MS Money, Quicken, Quickbooks, etc.) and was wondering if any of you had any suggestions for something that works well with officiating needs.

Quickbooks is overkill.

Money and Quicken are basically the same but different. I personally like MS Money, but just as many like Quicken.

For officiating alone (without any other personal finances), a simple excel spreadsheet would be more then enough.

TimTaylor Sun Sep 30, 2007 06:18am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Quickbooks is overkill.

Money and Quicken are basically the same but different. I personally like MS Money, but just as many like Quicken.

For officiating alone (without any other personal finances), a simple excel spreadsheet would be more then enough.

I agree with Cam....a book keeping program is way overkill. If you're not comfortable creating a spreadsheet in Excel, then something like Quicken or MS Money to keep track of income, expenses & mileage would be a good choice.

IMHO you'd be better off spending $40 a year on a good tax prep program (which is a deductible expense). I personally like TurboTax Deluxe, which includes everything you need to do your schedule C. It really simplifies the process.

Mark Dexter Sun Sep 30, 2007 08:17am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Shouldn't 7-11 close at 11? :confused: :eek:

Actually, the 7-11 by my undergrad school did have those hours - open at 7 am, close at 11 pm.

Mark Padgett Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Actually, the 7-11 by my undergrad school did have those hours - open at 7 am, close at 11 pm.

That's how the company got it's name. Originally, they were all open from 7 to 11, which was very unusual for stores at that time.

I can't fault any of you for not knowing that, because it happened way before any of you were born - around the year 711. However, I remember it well. :p

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 30, 2007 07:43pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
That's how the company got it's name. Originally, they were all open from 7 to 11, which was very unusual for stores at that time.

I can't fault any of you for not knowing that, because it happened way before any of you were born - around the year 711. However, I remember it well. :p

Actually, I did in fact know this. That fact and a quarter will get me a phone call, but meh, what can you do.

26 Year Gap Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:31pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Shouldn't 7-11 close at 11? :confused: :eek:

It is 11 somewhere if they close at 10.

Mark Dexter Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
It is 11 somewhere if they close at 10.

And it's 11 somewhere when they open at 7.

Adam Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:41am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
And it's 11 somewhere when they open at 7.

And it's always 5 O'clock somewhere. Right M&M Guy?

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 06:41am

India straddles two time zones, so they split the difference and put the entire country at half past (it's 7:40 am here and 5:10 pm there). Nepal likes to be different so they're :15 ahead of India.

What was the question?

Scrapper1 Mon Oct 01, 2007 08:37am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
India straddles two time zones, so they split the difference and put the entire country at half past (it's 7:40 am here and 5:10 pm there). Nepal likes to be different so they're :15 ahead of India.

I've also heard that all of China is one time zone. It's geographically large enough to cover 6 time zones or something like that, but the whole country is on Beijing time. I just looked it up; it's GMT +8 hours.

M&M Guy Mon Oct 01, 2007 09:26am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
And it's always 5 O'clock somewhere. Right M&M Guy?

:D
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Dan_ref Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:04am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
India straddles two time zones, so they split the difference and put the entire country at half past (it's 7:40 am here and 5:10 pm there). Nepal likes to be different so they're :15 ahead of India.

We have a similar situation here in the US.

Cleveland is a step & a half behind the rest of the country.

(sorry, couldn't resist :p )

Adam Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:13am

Isn't there a time zone in Canada that's a half hour ahead of Eastern Time?

Edited: Found it, it's Newfoundland, and it's an hour and a half ahead of US Eastern Time.

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:26am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
We have a similar situation here in the US.

Cleveland is a step & a half behind the rest of the country.

(sorry, couldn't resist :p )

You've obviously never visited Geauga (gee-AW-guh) County, Ohio, where the signs read:
Welcome to Geauga County, please set your clocks back 50 years.

Still, Geauga County produces more maple syrup than the state of Vermont.

Wait, what was the question again?

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:28am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I've also heard that all of China is one time zone. It's geographically large enough to cover 6 time zones or something like that, but the whole country is on Beijing time. I just looked it up; it's GMT +8 hours.

That's true (they should have 5 time zones). Very convenient for the central bureaucrats in Beijing, but not so nice when you get up in Lhasa at 7 am and the sun still thinks it's 2 am.

Mark Padgett Mon Oct 01, 2007 01:08pm

Is this thread now about the question of what do you do when officiating a game on a cruise ship in which the ship crosses the international date line while you are conducting a 10 second back court count? :confused:

bob jenkins Mon Oct 01, 2007 01:10pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Is this thread now about the question of what do you do when officiating a game on a cruise ship in which the ship crosses the international date line while you are conducting a 10 second back court count? :confused:

No, it's not. But, thanks for asking.

And, FWIW, I think the world should only have one time zone -- everyone should use GMT.

just another ref Mon Oct 01, 2007 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
......what do you do when officiating a game on a cruise ship in which the ship crosses the international date line while you are conducting a 10 second back court count? :confused:


Go home, come back the next day, complete the count, collect for two days travel and per diem.

Mark Padgett Mon Oct 01, 2007 01:20pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
No, it's not. But, thanks for asking.

And, FWIW, I think the world should only have one time zone -- everyone should use GMT.


Doesn't the military call it zulu time or something like that? I think it stands for "zero meridian". BTW - recently there was an "Ask Marilyn" column in Parade Magazine that listed the dumbest questions she had received all year. One was from someone who wanted to know why, instead of moving clocks ahead and behind one hour for DST adjustment twice a year, didn't we just move all clocks ahead a half an hour once and just leave them there from now on since it would "balance out". :D

Adam Mon Oct 01, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
No, it's not. But, thanks for asking.

And, FWIW, I think the world should only have one time zone -- everyone should use GMT.

Communist!

That's why we fought the revolutionary war; to avoid heavy taxes and GMT.

Back In The Saddle Mon Oct 01, 2007 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Communist!

That's why we fought the revolutionary war; to avoid heavy taxes and GMT.

Hmmm, I believe WE invented time zones. But perhaps we did it so we could assign ourselves something other than GMT. ;)

Adam Mon Oct 01, 2007 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Hmmm, I believe WE invented time zones. But perhaps we did it so we could assign ourselves something other than GMT. ;)

Now you're just arguing grammantics.
That's what I meant. :D

JugglingReferee Mon Oct 01, 2007 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Isn't there a time zone in Canada that's a half hour ahead of Eastern Time?

Edited: Found it, it's Newfoundland, and it's an hour and a half ahead of US Eastern Time.

Argh! This is what is frustrating to non-Americans. The ISO format for timezones specifies that the TZ is Eastern. It is not called "US Eastern Time."

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Hmmm, I believe WE invented time zones. But perhaps we did it so we could assign ourselves something other than GMT.

Actually, a US citizen proposed time zones for the US only. A Canadian proposed the system on a worldwide basis.

Adam Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:38am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Argh! This is what is frustrating to non-Americans. The ISO format for timezones specifies that the TZ is Eastern. It is not called "US Eastern Time."

I was trying to avoid being parochial by referring to it as US Eastern; thus differentiating it from the North American Time Zones that happen to be located further east.

Oh, and you are American. ;)

JugglingReferee Tue Oct 02, 2007 05:41am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I was trying to avoid being parochial by referring to it as US Eastern; thus differentiating it from the North American Time Zones that happen to be located further east.

Oh, and you are American. ;)

Yabut, me being North American gets used about as often as I, or anyone, says that they're an Earthling. :p

The good part of the USA right now is that it's a good place to buy stuff, since my dollar is worth the same as your dollar. :D


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