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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 08:02pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Even without an explict, direct case, basic logic comes in here...


All possible cases are not cited in the case book (the book would be 1000 pages if so) but it is very clear that offensive infractions always kill the ball if the try has not been released (and sometimes after).



Repeating the cite by Nev..
4.19.8 SITUATION D: A1 has possession of the ball and is about to attempt the first of a one-and-one free-throw situation when A4 and B4 are whistled for a double foul. RULING: A4 and B4 are charged with personal fouls and play shall resume from the point of interruption. A1 receives the ball to attempt the one-and-one free throw with the lane spaces properly occupied. (4-36-2b; 7-5-9)

If that's not definitive, we might as well burn to books since they're useless.
Wow!! Thanks, all y'all. Cameron, I found this case play after I posted the question, but wasn't about to step in the middle of this. It's been fun.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 08:18pm
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Wow!! Thanks, all y'all. Cameron, I found this case play after I posted the question, but wasn't about to step in the middle of this. It's been fun.
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Did you miss the part of the case play that said "about to attempt"? It didn't say "was attempting". Iow, the FT shooter hasn't started the "try". No continuous motion. That case play is completely irrelevant to the play being discussed. Apples and oranges.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2007, 09:35pm
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Did you miss the part of the case play that said "about to attempt"? It didn't say "was attempting". Iow, the FT shooter hasn't started the "try". No continuous motion. That case play is completely irrelevant to the play being discussed. Apples and oranges.
Wow!!! Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. I don't suppose you have anything definitive to back up that definition.
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Old Wed Sep 26, 2007, 12:00am
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Did you miss the part of the case play that said "about to attempt"? It didn't say "was attempting". Iow, the FT shooter hasn't started the "try". No continuous motion. That case play is completely irrelevant to the play being discussed. Apples and oranges.

Since the foul by the teammate of the shooter causes the ball to become dead, wouldn't the ruling be the same whether the try had started or not? I thought no continuous motion is what I was arguing for.
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