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scupitt Tue Jan 22, 2002 01:01pm

Is it travelling? Clearer question.
 
Let me be a little clearer: There is a loose ball on the floor. A player dives onto the floor for the loose ball, secures it, and slides on the floor. He does not make an attempt to get up and does not roll away from the defender. Does the action of the player sliding on the floor with the ball constitute a travelling violation?

[Edited by scupitt on Jan 22nd, 2002 at 01:21 PM]

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 22, 2002 01:07pm

If, in your opinion (I assume you are the official) the sliding was a result of the effort to obtain possession of the ball on the floor, then there is no travel.

NOw, if this happened in your driveway, you might have a graveling violation. ;)

zebraman Tue Jan 22, 2002 01:25pm

Mark,

From your response, I can tell that you have another situation in mind when sliding <b> would </b> be a travel. Can you enlighten me.

Thanks,

Z

P.S. The "graveling" violation was cornier than a field in Nebraska. :)

Rookie Tue Jan 22, 2002 01:37pm

What about this sitch. Player A1 is going for a rebound and slips and falls, on his way down he catches the ball? Is he traveling?

If you fall down with the ball, it is traveling. If you catch the ball on your back, and don't get up, it is nothing.

Lotto Tue Jan 22, 2002 01:52pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rookie
What about this sitch. Player A1 is going for a rebound and slips and falls, on his way down he catches the ball? Is he traveling?

If you fall down with the ball, it is traveling. If you catch the ball on your back, and don't get up, it is nothing.

This is traveling. A player who falls to the floor while holding the ball travels, no matter whether he/she caught the ball while standing on the floor or in the air. See NCAA Rule 4.64.5 A.R. 36.

The same Approved Ruling deals with what happens when a player obtains the ball on the floor and then slides or rolls.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 22, 2002 02:54pm

Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
Mark,

From your response, I can tell that you have another situation in mind when sliding <b> would </b> be a travel. Can you enlighten me.

Thanks,

Z

P.S. The "graveling" violation was cornier than a field in Nebraska. :)

Of course it would be traveling if the player's momentum stopped and he continued to slide of his own Accord (or Camry, for that matter).

This brings to mind a Davism. A player gained control of the ball while sitting on the floor but then began to scoot forward. Dave called a travel. The howler monkey asked why that was a travel. Dave said, "He moved his pivot cheek, coach."

Speaking of corny - here's today's pun. A man enters a pun contest. He figures he can increase his chance of winning by submitting not one but ten puns. He thought that at least one would win but - no pun in ten did.

mick Tue Jan 22, 2002 04:06pm

Don't ferget
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rookie
What about this sitch. Player A1 is going for a rebound and slips and falls, on his way down he catches the ball? Is he traveling?

Did he touch the floor with any part of his body other than his hands or feet (or knee in CCA)? Then, yes.

If you fall down with the ball, it is traveling. If you catch the ball on your back, and don't get up, it is nothing.
Rookie,
Don't forget to let this player sit up. Sitting up is legal.
mick

Hawks Coach Tue Jan 22, 2002 04:12pm

Re: Don't ferget
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Rookie,
Don't forget to let this player sit up. Sitting up is legal.
mick
Unless the player is Mark P - if he sits up, he's liable to start talkin,' and if he starts talkin' . . .

Mark Dexter Tue Jan 22, 2002 07:39pm

Re: Re: Don't ferget
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach

Unless the player is Mark P - if he sits up, he's liable to start talkin,' and if he starts talkin' . . .

Maybe we need to get him some of those meds that JRut is supposedly taking.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 23, 2002 12:21am

I don't think Rut always takes his pills. That means he should have some left over for Mark! :D

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 23, 2002 06:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I don't think Rut always takes his pills. That means he should have some left over for Mark! :D
I do work in a pharmacy . . .

Peter Devana Wed Jan 23, 2002 09:31pm







NO!!!

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:28pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Devana






NO!!!

I would never sell drugs under the counter. I wouldn't want to lose my medical license before I got it.

JRutledge Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:49pm

Redman says, "Whatever man."
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:


Maybe we need to get him some of those meds that JRut is supposedly taking.
I am not the one talking about a person that does not exist. ;) I do not think I am the one that needs the medication, I am not the one hallucinating.

Peace



Mark Dexter Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:57pm

Are you talking about Dave? He does exist!

ChuckElias Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:13pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Are you talking about Dave? He does exist!
Yeah, we know he exists. We also know whose head he exists in! :D

Chuck

mick Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:14pm

Re: Redman says,
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:


Maybe we need to get him some of those meds that JRut is supposedly taking.
I am not the one talking about a person that does not exist. ;) I do not think I am the one that needs the medication, I am not the one hallucinating.

Peace


Rut,
Did you get married or something?
You look different.
Good, but different.
You ain't pregnant with that new glow are you?
mick

rainmaker Thu Jan 24, 2002 03:27am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Are you talking about Dave? He does exist!
Yeah, we know he exists. We also know whose head he exists in! :D

Chuck

Chuck -- Oh, no, Dave exists alright. I've talked to the man personally. In fact, I congratulated him once on his clever repartee. He just stared at me blankly and said, "Huh?"

But maybe that's just a cover for his witty and entertaining personality, which he hides from everyone except stupid coaches....

JRutledge Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:08am

In your mind.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Are you talking about Dave? He does exist!

Sure he does. ;) ;)

Peace

JRutledge Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:10am

Re: Now that would be an hallucination then.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:




I am not the one talking about a person that does not exist. ;) I do not think I am the one that needs the medication, I am not the one hallucinating.

Peace


Rut,
Did you get married or something?
You look different.
Good, but different.
You ain't pregnant with that new glow are you?
mick [/B]

If I was Mick, I might be really miserable then. :)

Peace


Mark Dexter Thu Jan 24, 2002 11:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Are you talking about Dave? He does exist!
Yeah, we know he exists. We also know whose head he exists in! :D

Chuck

You haven't heard the official explaination from Padgett? Dave was an actual rec ball ref who said crazy stuff. In the years after Mark met Dave, Mark gave the name of Dave to anyone with whom he worked that had a quick wit.

JRutledge Thu Jan 24, 2002 09:52pm

Not that funny anymore.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
[/B]
You haven't heard the official explaination from Padgett? Dave was an actual rec ball ref who said crazy stuff. In the years after Mark met Dave, Mark gave the name of Dave to anyone with whom he worked that had a quick wit. [/B][/QUOTE]

Mark I have heard the story. That is why I say that it is a dillusion. It was funny the first 1000 time I heard it, but those comments will get you shot if you say them in the wrong circles. But I guess we all do not have the same humor. I guess that is life.

Peace


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