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Rita C Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:37pm

progressive lens
 
:( I got new lenses today. I got the progressive lenses. I had been told they took getting used to but having had bifocals in the past I didn't think too much about it.

The first thing I notice is that I don't have distance vision fully across the lens. To see something clearly I have to turn my head and fully face it. So far I really don't like it. And I'm concerned about how that can affect my officiating. The people at the vision center had made no mention of that effect.

Do I need to get straight distance glasses for officiating? And use these for the part of my life that has more variety in distance viewing?

Rita

FrankHtown Tue Jul 31, 2007 08:00am

I switched to contact lenses 2 years ago for refereeing games and love them. Yes, I'm Nearsighted, Yes, I have Astigmatism, and Yes, now I'm at the age where when I wear the contact lenses, I need reading glasses to see small print. But I'd never give up the lenses. The improvement in peripheral vision is dramatic. It has totally made me more comfortable at L while watching the paint, I still have a good idea of where the ball is without turning my head. With glasses I was always sneaking a look at the ball. Exam and 6 lenses for each eye was less than $200. I wear glasses when I'm not refereeing, so 6 lenses, with proper care, will last me at least a year.

Mark Padgett Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:27pm

I wear regressive lenses. They give my hindsight 100% accuracy. ;)

JugglingReferee Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I wear regressive lenses. They give my hindsight 100% accuracy. ;)

And in hindsight, what have you learned? I'd like to learn from your mistakes. :)

rainmaker Tue Jul 31, 2007 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by Rita C
:( I got new lenses today. I got the progressive lenses. I had been told they took getting used to but having had bifocals in the past I didn't think too much about it.

The first thing I notice is that I don't have distance vision fully across the lens. To see something clearly I have to turn my head and fully face it. So far I really don't like it. And I'm concerned about how that can affect my officiating. The people at the vision center had made no mention of that effect.

Do I need to get straight distance glasses for officiating? And use these for the part of my life that has more variety in distance viewing?

Rita

Are you talking about contact lenses? Or new lenses in your spectacles?

I only wear contacts when I ref, and I use a "single-setting" correction. I took some samples that were in the range of what seemd about right, and tried different ones until I discovered what worked best for reffing. I don't need to see details really sharply more than 50 feet, and I don't need to be able to read (I can use reading glasses for the score book). So my sharpest focus is at about 20 feet and I find that the drop off in detail isn't enough to be a problem for me.

I have astigmatism, and my daily wear glasses are set for that, so when I first put on my contacts, my eyes have to adjust how they process the edges of my vision. BUt if I give myself a half an hour before the game, I'm fine by the toss. When I first started wearing contacts, I tried the bifocal type, and they were awful. I just couldn't make them work. WHat I've got now works for me.

blindzebra Tue Jul 31, 2007 04:17pm

One word....Lasik.

Best decision I ever made. I'm between 20/10 and 20/15 in my left eye and 20/15 and 20/20 in my right...my right had an astigmatism.

Mark Padgett Tue Jul 31, 2007 04:40pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
And in hindsight, what have you learned? I'd like to learn from your mistakes. :)

No one's brain is big enough to process all my mistakes. Sorry. :p

Adam Tue Jul 31, 2007 05:11pm

I prefer my lenses be conservative rather than progressive, but I've noticed I see better to my right side.

Mark Padgett Tue Jul 31, 2007 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I prefer my lenses be conservative rather than progressive, but I've noticed I see better to my right side.

Sounds like pretty good strategery to me. ;)

Adam Tue Jul 31, 2007 05:31pm

Don't misunderestimate me.

Texas Aggie Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:29am

I am nearsighted, have an astigmatism (or did), and haven't worn glasses since about 1979 or 1980. I wear contacts in whatever I do, whether officiating or skin diving. Switch to contacts or have surgery. If I had to wear glasses, I'd have to retire. I sweat so bad, glasses wouldn't do me any good.

BktBallRef Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:36am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
Do I need to get straight distance glasses for officiating? And use these for the part of my life that has more variety in distance viewing?

Rita, you don't need the progressives for officiating, only you need them to check the book. You should tell your optometrist that you need a single vision Rx for officiating. Or, as others have suggested, single vision contacts would work. There are situations where people with astigmatism, like Texas Aggies has, can't wear contacts or would need torics. In laymen's terms, astigmatism means that your cornea is shaped like a football rather than a basketball.

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
One word....Lasik.

Best decision I ever made. I'm between 20/10 and 20/15 in my left eye and 20/15 and 20/20 in my right...my right had an astigmatism.

Lasik won't help you when you get to the point that you need bifocals/progressives. As we get older (by the time most people are 50), our eyes lose the ability to focus as an item moves closer to your eyes. It's known as accommodation. Lasik can't do anything for that as it has nothing to do with reshaping the cornea. That's why we all need help reading as we get older.

blindzebra Thu Aug 02, 2007 04:27am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Rita, you don't need the progressives for officiating, only you need them to check the book. You should tell your optometrist that you need a single vision Rx for officiating. Or, as others have suggested, single vision contacts would work. There are situations where people with astigmatism, like Texas Aggies has, can't wear contacts or would need torics. In laymen's terms, astigmatism means that your cornea is shaped like a football rather than a basketball.



Lasik won't help you when you get to the point that you need bifocals/progressives. As we get older (by the time most people are 50), our eyes lose the ability to focus as an item moves closer to your eyes. It's known as accommodation. Lasik can't do anything for that as it has nothing to do with reshaping the cornea. That's why we all need help reading as we get older.

But it still fixes the other part of the problem that you'd need the single vision lenses for...as someone who wore contacts for over 15 years, it's not a lot of fun, it's expensive, and even the disposables do damage to your eyes that will eventually mean you can't wear contacts anymore.

Camron Rust Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Lasik won't help you when you get to the point that you need bifocals/progressives. As we get older (by the time most people are 50), our eyes lose the ability to focus as an item moves closer to your eyes. It's known as accommodation. Lasik can't do anything for that as it has nothing to do with reshaping the cornea. That's why we all need help reading as we get older.

Well, that is not quite true....lasik can help.

There have been poeple who have one eye Lasik'd for reading distances and one eye Lasik'd for longer distances. The person just uses one eye for each type of task. I don't know how well it works but it has been done.

Mark Dexter Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Well, that is not quite true....lasik can help.

There have been poeple who have one eye Lasik'd for reading distances and one eye Lasik'd for longer distances. The person just uses one eye for each type of task. I don't know how well it works but it has been done.

LASIK can't do jack for loss of accommodation. It may be possible to reshape the cornea to compensate, but the lens is just going to get worse as the patient ages.

BktBallRef Fri Aug 03, 2007 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
But it still fixes the other part of the problem that you'd need the single vision lenses for...as someone who wore contacts for over 15 years, it's not a lot of fun, it's expensive, and even the disposables do damage to your eyes that will eventually mean you can't wear contacts anymore.

I don't know many opthamalogists who are willing to do Lasik on someone with presbyopia.

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
LASIK can't do jack for loss of accommodation. It may be possible to reshape the cornea to compensate, but the lens is just going to get worse as the patient ages.

Thank you, Mr. Dexter.

blindzebra1 Fri Aug 03, 2007 09:54pm

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Two Words: Contacts

rainmaker Sat Aug 04, 2007 01:06am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
LASIK can't do jack for loss of accommodation. It may be possible to reshape the cornea to compensate, but the lens is just going to get worse as the patient ages.

... and he can spell 'accommodation'! ..sigh...

Mark Dexter Sat Aug 04, 2007 09:20am

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
... and he can spell 'accommodation'! ..sigh...

Yes - but a performance-enhancing substance (my browser's spell-check) helped.

Mark Padgett Sat Aug 04, 2007 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
I don't know many opthamalogists who are willing to do Lasik on someone with presbyopia.


How about on someone who's with a Lutheran or a Methodist? :confused:

Adam Sat Aug 04, 2007 03:26pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
How about on someone who's with a Lutheran or a Methodist? :confused:

Myopia can't be cured.

refnrev Sat Aug 04, 2007 03:50pm

Rita,
If by progressive you mean the no line bi-focals, I tried them and HATED THEM WITH A PASSION! You have to point your nose directly at what you're looking at. I had no peripheral vision, and was half dizzy most of the time. I almost had three wrecks while driving over by St. Louis. I had the eye doctor put half moon bifocals in. In recent years I've gotten to where I only need glasses for reading or occasionally driving late at night so I don't wear glasses to referee. But I don't see how you could ever referee in progressive lenses. Seems to me that they would drive you absolutely crazy on the court! RR

refnrev Sat Aug 04, 2007 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by Rita C
:Do I need to get straight distance glasses for officiating? And use these for the part of my life that has more variety in distance viewing?

Rita

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As I said in the past post, I wouldn't use them for anything!

refnrev Sat Aug 04, 2007 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by Rita C
:Do I need to get straight distance glasses for officiating? And use these for the part of my life that has more variety in distance viewing?

Rita

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As I said in the past post, I wouldn't use them for anything!

Mountaineer Sat Aug 04, 2007 09:16pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Myopia can't be cured.

WHAT??? :eek:

26 Year Gap Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:33am

I went with 30 day toric contact lenses last November. I hated the thought of messing with my eyes and this way it is only twice a month. [BBR: Once taking old ones out. Once putting new ones in.] I sleep in them, but not during games. And I use reading glasses--have two pairs which is far less than I need. If you DO go that route, know the difference between a remote and telephone to save yourself some embarrassment.

Camron Rust Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:08am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
LASIK can't do jack for loss of accommodation. It may be possible to reshape the cornea to compensate, but the lens is just going to get worse as the patient ages.

You missed my point. They don't do it with a single eye. They focus one eye for reading and one eye for distance. It can be very annoying for many but it is done. I'm guessing they make you try it out with contact/glasses with a similar arrangement before doing the surgery.

26 Year Gap Fri Aug 10, 2007 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
You missed my point. They don't do it with a single eye. They focus one eye for reading and one eye for distance. It can be very annoying for many but it is done. I'm guessing they make you try it out with contact/glasses with a similar arrangement before doing the surgery.

AAARRRRGGGGH, Matey!

BktBallRef Fri Aug 10, 2007 05:00pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
You missed my point. They don't do it with a single eye. They focus one eye for reading and one eye for distance. It can be very annoying for many but it is done. I'm guessing they make you try it out with contact/glasses with a similar arrangement before doing the surgery.

We understood what you're saying, Cam. But the point was they still can't do anything about accommodation. They're just over correcting the one eye. I can see wheree they would have to be very cautious about doing that.

Mark Padgett Fri Aug 10, 2007 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
AAARRRRGGGGH, Matey!

What do sailors use to keep their parrots from falling off their shoulders?

Polygrip.


AARRR, AARRR, AARRR! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...images/lol.gif

26 Year Gap Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:38pm

I might get a similar response from my stepson who is playing in Pirates of Penzance if I asked him "What's the Pinafore?"


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