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rharford Sun Jul 22, 2007 09:17pm

Offensive rebound question
 
On a free throw of course, the ball must hit the rim for the offensive team to be able to get an offensive rebound. How about though in a non free throw situation, specifically if Player A shoots the ball and only hits the backboard, can Player A still get his own rebound and put it back in for a score? Thanks.

--Bob
Arlington, VA

Nevadaref Sun Jul 22, 2007 09:40pm

From the NFHS casebook:

4.44 SITUATION B: A1 attempts a try after ending the dribble. The try does not touch the backboard, the rim or any other player. A1 runs and is able to catch the ball before it strikes the floor. Is this traveling? RULING: No. When A1 recovered his/her own try, A1 could either dribble, pass or try again. There was no team control after the ball was released on a try. (4-12; 4-41)


The NCAA rule is the same as the HS one.

RULE 4, Section 66

A.R. 105.
A1 attempts a try at Team A’s basket after having completed the dribble. The try does not touch the backboard, the ring or the flange or any other player. A1 runs and catches the ball before it strikes the playing court. Is this traveling?

RULING: When A1 recovered his or her own try, A1 could either dribble, pass or try again. There is no team control by either team when a try is in flight. However, when the shot clock expires and a try by A1 or a teammate has not struck the ring or the flange, it shall be a violation of the shot-clock rule.



However, the NBA has a rule which says that this is a traveling violation.
RULE 10, Section XIII
f. A player who attempts a field goal may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to
touch the backboard, basket ring or another player.

Mark Padgett Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rharford
On a free throw of course, the ball must hit the rim for the offensive team to be able to get an offensive rebound. How about though in a non free throw situation, specifically if Player A shoots the ball and only hits the backboard, can Player A still get his own rebound and put it back in for a score? Thanks.

--Bob
Arlington, VA

Nevadaref quoted you the correct rules but I think he thought you asked what happens if the ball doesn't hit the backboard. The answer is the same whether it does or doesn't hit the backboard (NF and NCAA). Once the try is attempted, there is no team control and it is a "free" ball for anyone, including the original shooter, to get.

Nevadaref Mon Jul 23, 2007 01:06am

I responded the way that I did because, as you wrote, it doesn't make any difference whether the ball contacts the backboard or not, except in the NBA. The play is perfectly legal in HS and college either way.

I figured that giving the OP the exact rules, which he could read and interpret for himself was the best way to go. IOW, I was hopeful that given the proper information, he could answer his own question.

bob jenkins Mon Jul 23, 2007 08:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rharford
On a free throw of course, the ball must hit the rim for the offensive team to be able to get an offensive rebound.

Not only that, the ball must hit the rim for the "defensive" team to get a rebound. ;)

rainmaker Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:44am

The title of the thread is "Offensive rebound question". Well, I for one, don't find this question the least bit offensive. You're gonna have to work a lot harder than this if you want to get a rise out of us, harford!:D

BillyMac Mon Jul 23, 2007 07:45pm

Air Ball ????
 
The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a jump ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainmaker
The title of the thread is "Offensive rebound question". Well, I for one, don't find this question the least bit offensive. You're gonna have to work a lot harder than this if you want to get a rise out of us, harford!:D


Juulie:

Well, aren't you just the cat's pajama's. :D

MTD, Sr.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:04am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

<font color = red>Well, aren't just the cat's pajamma's. </font>

Did Old School write that for you?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jul 24, 2007 08:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Did Old School write that for you?


JR:

I went back and edited my post. LOL

MTD, Sr.

Jurassic Referee Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
JR:

I went back and edited my post. LOL

MTD, Sr.

Good. Your next assignment now is to look up the correct spelling of "pajamas" in the dictionary.:D

Scrapper1 Wed Jul 25, 2007 08:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci
Well, aren't you just the cat's pajamma's.

Your next assignment now is to look up the correct spelling of "pajamas" in the dictionary.:D

Maybe Mark's secretly a University of Houston fan and they're Phi Slamma Jamma Pajammas.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jul 25, 2007 02:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Good. Your next assignment now is to look up the correct spelling of "pajamas" in the dictionary.:D

JR:

Oops! I guess I shouldn't have drank all of those Bahama Mamma's before I wrote that post. I corrected my spelling too. LOL

MTD, Sr.

Scrapper1 Wed Jul 25, 2007 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I guess I shouldn't have drank all of those Bahama Mamma's

You mean "Bahamma Mmamma's"? :D

Mark Dexter Wed Jul 25, 2007 04:28pm

Bahama Mammas.

It's not possessive.


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