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RecRef Mon Jan 07, 2002 04:33pm

What would you do when you can’t put the correct amount of time back on the clock?

One point rec game this weekend with 6/10 of a second left. Clock operator starts the clock when the ball is given to the inbounder. (It was his son’s team and they were the ones down by a point. And yes we went over the situation with him beforehand)

Partner goes to the table to set the clock back to 0.0:6. It can't be done. You can set minutes and seconds but not tenths. Both of use tried to work the time down to 6/10 but could not. In the end we gave-up with 7/10 on the clock. :confused:

BktBallRef Mon Jan 07, 2002 04:48pm

That works for me. The guy is gonna be slow starting it anyway! :)

Mark Dexter Mon Jan 07, 2002 05:40pm

(1) You get as close as you can, going slightly over rather than slightly under, IMHO.

(2) In a situation like this, you shoot the timer after the game.

Kelvin green Mon Jan 07, 2002 06:55pm

I have never seen a clock that had tenths, that could not be reset somehow, but that's not my point.

If you want to get it close it works but maybe you don't need one. You know that a catch takes a minimum of three tenths, so you have time for a good catch/quick shot and nothing else. You also know that lag time means there won't be a foul that you can get stop the clock. So a direct pass in a shot is about what you have time for, no dribbles no passes, etc. ( now if you were working with Precision Time it might be different) but what I would say the team's got a quick shot to win.

BktBallRef Mon Jan 07, 2002 10:46pm

0:00.7 is better than no time at all, IMO.

Dan_ref Mon Jan 07, 2002 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelvin green
I have never seen a clock that had tenths, that could not be reset somehow, but that's not my point...


I've seen clocks that you could not set to tenths, in other
words you could set it to 2 seconds or 3 seconds but not
2.5 seconds. I've had such a clock with 3.4 seconds
remaining, we rounded down to 3.0 seconds (you might be
surprised how HARD it is to stop at 3.4 seconds exactly). Coach A was happy, he was up by 1 at the time. Coach B had
the ball and he lived with it. B1 hit the 15 footer to win.

rainmaker Tue Jan 08, 2002 04:36am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
you might be surprised how HARD it is to stop at 3.4 seconds exactly
No I wouldn't. I live in Oregon where it is illegal to pump your own gasoline, but when I am in WA, I have loads of trouble rounding off to the dollar amount I want. I can't imagine trying to time out to tenths of a second.

RecRef Tue Jan 08, 2002 09:24am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
you might be surprised how HARD it is to stop at 3.4 seconds exactly
No I wouldn't. I live in Oregon where it is illegal to pump your own gasoline, but when I am in WA, I have loads of trouble rounding off to the dollar amount I want. I can't imagine trying to time out to tenths of a second.

Where is Jerry Seinfeld when you need him? :D

ChuckElias Tue Jan 08, 2002 10:47am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

No I wouldn't. I live in Oregon where it is illegal to pump your own gasoline
Illegal to pump gasoline? What in the wide, wide world of sports is the rationale for that? People who own cars can't be trusted not to overfill their tanks and spill the gas all over the station?

Seriously, Juulie, why in the world can't you pump your own gas?

Chuck

dblref Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:14am

My son lives in Olympia, WA and goes to Portland a couple of times a week (govt. work) and sometimes he takes his truck and he hates to not be able to pump his own gas. I think this same rule applies in New Jersey and/or Delaware, but not positive.

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:44am

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Originally posted by dblref
My son lives in Olympia, WA and goes to Portland a couple of times a week (govt. work) and sometimes he takes his truck and he hates to not be able to pump his own gas. I think this same rule applies in New Jersey and/or Delaware, but not positive.
NJ does not allow you to pump your own gas, which is fine
with me considering the tax there is about 20 cents lower
per gallon than NY, even lower compared to NYC.

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:46am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

No I wouldn't. I live in Oregon where it is illegal to pump your own gasoline
Illegal to pump gasoline? What in the wide, wide world of sports is the rationale for that? People who own cars can't be trusted not to overfill their tanks and spill the gas all over the station?

Seriously, Juulie, why in the world can't you pump your own gas?

Chuck
Hey, isn't Mass the state where you can only enter a gas
station one way?

ChuckElias Tue Jan 08, 2002 12:35pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Hey, isn't Mass the state where you can only enter a gas station one way?
You mean forward? Seriously, MA has no law about entering a gas station in any certain direction. Although, I could at least understand that law if it existed. Basic traffic flow control. It would probably not be essentially important, but I could understand it.

But I honestly don't understand why people aren't allowed to pump their own gas in OR and NJ. Do the 16-year-old boys that do the pumping have to go thru special training to do it right?

Chuck

Camron Rust Tue Jan 08, 2002 12:42pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

No I wouldn't. I live in Oregon where it is illegal to pump your own gasoline
Illegal to pump gasoline? What in the wide, wide world of sports is the rationale for that? People who own cars can't be trusted not to overfill their tanks and spill the gas all over the station?

Seriously, Juulie, why in the world can't you pump your own gas?

Chuck
I happen to like it (and I worked for an Exxon station for 3 years while I was in college). You don't risk smelling like gasoline when you are on the way to an important meeting. It also rains a lot here in Oregon (betcha didn't know that) and I get to stay in my warm, dry car. It also provides jobs to many people that don't have any significant skills or education or perhaps have fallen on bad times.

The State's arguments for keeping it are the jobs and an increase level of safety.

The downside is that you have to wait for the pump jocky to come to you car...some stations are quick and well staffed while others are so slow you are waiting a long time.

Mark Dexter Tue Jan 08, 2002 12:50pm

I'm from CT and have lots of relatives in NJ. Usually, I drive down with some family members during the summer. What always amazes me is how gas by me would be 1.50 or so for self serve, but it would be .99 in NJ for full serve!

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 12:55pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Hey, isn't Mass the state where you can only enter a gas station one way?
You mean forward? Seriously, MA has no law about entering a gas station in any certain direction. Although, I could at least understand that law if it existed. Basic traffic flow control. It would probably not be essentially important, but I could understand it.

But I honestly don't understand why people aren't allowed to pump their own gas in OR and NJ. Do the 16-year-old boys that do the pumping have to go thru special training to do it right?

Chuck
Last summer I was in a busy gas station in Mass. It turned
out the gas tank was on the other side of the car (rental)
so I drove around the island & went to the other side.
Everyone else was facing the other way. Some guy came
running out & told me I could not fill up facing that way,
a new law had gone into effect mandating a "forward"
direction that everyone had to maintain. Maybe 'cause I
was wearing my Yankees hat?

ChuckElias Tue Jan 08, 2002 01:37pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Last summer I was in a busy gas station in Mass. I could not fill up facing that way, a new law had gone into effect mandating a "forward" direction that everyone had to maintain.
Maybe that was a town ordnance. I'm pretty sure that it's not a statewide thing. Yankees cap, indeed. :(

originally posted by Camron Rust
Quote:

I happen to like it. You don't risk smelling like gasoline when you are on the way to an important meeting. It also rains a lot here in Oregon (betcha didn't know that) and I get to stay in my warm, dry car. It also provides jobs to many people that don't have any significant skills or education or perhaps have fallen on bad times.

The State's arguments for keeping it are the jobs and an increase level of safety.
That's great that you stay dry on the way to a meeting, but if I'm in a big hurry and don't care about getting a little wet then why should the state prohibit me from doing it? That's just bizarre. And as far as the jobs go, that's also a fine goal, but why not give them the same job, but only have them pump at the "full serve" line, while I pump my own so I don't have to wait?

Chuck

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 01:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias


...Yankees cap, indeed. :(


Indeed! :)

Mark Dexter Tue Jan 08, 2002 02:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe 'cause I was wearing my Yankees hat?
And you're still alive!!??!?!???

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 02:38pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe 'cause I was wearing my Yankees hat?
And you're still alive!!??!?!???

Yeah. In my younger days (geeze, now I'm sounding like
Mick) I was in the habit of visiting Fenway and stopping
for post game refreshments wearing my Yankees cap. And this
was when Boston had a team that could play! :eek:

(Actually, I even more surprised than you are!)

Mark Dexter Tue Jan 08, 2002 02:54pm

Dan, you are one brave man!

I went to school right on the CT/MA border (in CT), so we had quite a split between Yankee and Red Sox fans. Thankfully we didn't have any fights, but a Yankees fan teacher once kicked out a kid who supported the Red Sox (yes, because he was supporting the Red Sox in class).

Dan_ref Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Dan, you are one brave man!

I went to school right on the CT/MA border (in CT), so we had quite a split between Yankee and Red Sox fans. Thankfully we didn't have any fights, but a Yankees fan teacher once kicked out a kid who supported the Red Sox (yes, because he was supporting the Red Sox in class).

Actually some of my best friends are Red Sox fans. When I
lived out west I went to Angels games with a transplanted
Boston native. He wore his Sox hat, I wore my Yankees hat
and we rooted against the Angels (except when we saw the
Tigers play). For some reason they always cut off
our beer before the 7th inning. Our boss was a huge Angels
fan, luckily we had yearly reviews in February, when he had
forgiven us and was again optimistic about the Angels chances.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 09, 2002 12:10am

Had a friend who was a Red Sox fan. He was in Shea Stadum for Game 6 of the 1986 World Series. He was sitting in the bleachers along the right field line, able to open a bottle of champagne when a ground ball rolled through Bill Buckner's legs! :D

Then, one of those friendly New Yorkers stole his camera bag with about $1000 worth of camera equipment in it. :(

Overall, not a good night. ;)

dblref Wed Jan 09, 2002 07:59am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe 'cause I was wearing my Yankees hat?
And you're still alive!!??!?!???

Spent 2 weeks in August visiting my son in Olympia, WA area and I wore my Yankees cap every day.....an survived! During the visit, the Mariners took 2 of 3 from the Yankees and when we were at the airport leaving, a young man (about 17 or 18) was sitting with an older couple and as I was going down the gangway to the plane, he said "Yankees Suck!!" I smiled at him and asked him when was the last time the Mariners won the world series and he said never. I then asked him the last time they won the AL title, and he said never. I then told him.."jealously is such a petty emotion" ... and he looked at me with a blank stare. Later in the flight, the older gentleman he had been sitting with (his grandfather) stopped me in the aisle and told me that is the first time he has ever seen his grandson speechless. The grandfather thought the comment was funny. BTW, the grandfather was a Red Sox fan.


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