what do YOU call in these sitchs

[Larks]

1. A1 and B1 are scrmblin for a loose ball...B1 dives for it tipping it...A1 continues running and trips over B1's torso (a) without the ball and in (b) catching the ball and falling.

2. A1 and B1 are scrambling for a loose ball. A1 secures it as B1 falls in front of him. A1 moves to dribble and trips over B1's torso.

3. Massive pile of humanity going for a rebound. B1 falls to the deck. A1 secures a rebound and begins his dribble but trips over B1's torso.

4. A1 is dribbling with B1 guarding when their feet get tangled. (a) B1 falls into A1 causing him to fall and in (b) A1 falls as a result of their feet getting tangled and in (c) both fall.

In 1, 2 & 3, B1 did nothing more than fall in the path of A1.


Thanks...any NF book references will be appreciated.

Larks - Veteran In Training

[bob jenkins]

Read case 10.6.1E, then decide what the calls are, based on whether A was stationary and whether B had legal guarding position.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Larks
1. A1 and B1 are scrmblin for a loose ball...B1 dives for it tipping it...A1 continues running and trips over B1's torso (a) without the ball and in (b) catching the ball and falling.

In A probably nothing. B's a tough one, it's probably a block, maybe a travel, depending on what B was doing at the
time. In any event you're smart if you have something,
as I say it's most often a block.

2. A1 and B1 are scrambling for a loose ball. A1 secures it as B1 falls in front of him. A1 moves to dribble and trips over B1's torso.

Block

3. Massive pile of humanity going for a rebound. B1 falls to the deck. A1 secures a rebound and begins his dribble but trips over B1's torso.

Again, depending. Either nothing or a block. You might be
able to get away with nothing simply because it's a pile,
but again you would be smart to have something.

4. A1 is dribbling with B1 guarding when their feet get tangled. (a) B1 falls into A1 causing him to fall and in (b) A1 falls as a result of their feet getting tangled and in (c) both fall.

A is easy, block. B is easy, block. C is easy, block.

In 1, 2 & 3, B1 did nothing more than fall in the path of A1.


Thanks...any NF book references will be appreciated.

Larks - Veteran In Training

Unfortunately there's little guidance from the rule book
on these types of plays outside of what's written concerning
generic contact. Referee the contact, you know what's legal
& what's not. It's hard to say referee the defense in
the loose ball situations 'cause it's not clear who's
defending what.

[BktBallRef]

Assuming, and I can do that since the situations really aren't clear, that B1 was legally on the floor before any contact was made, then I have:

1- Nothing

2- Nothing

3- Nothing

There is no time and distance in these situations. Whoever gets to the spot first, owns it.

4- Block, block, block

When the dribbler is tripped by a defender's feet, I have a foul on the defense.