Traveling?

[mu4scott]

Two players from the same team simultaneously are holding the ball. While both are in possession one of the players takes a step. Is that an automatic travel or is it considered the pivot foot for both of them?

[Scrapper1]

There's no travel unless one of them actually travels (lifts the pivot foot and then returns it to the floor; or drags the pivot foot).

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

There's no travel unless one of them actually travels (lifts the pivot foot and then returns it to the floor; or drags the pivot foot).

How about if one travels and the other one doesn't .... who takes precedence?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by socalreff

How about if one travels and the other one doesn't .... who takes precedence?

The violation. Only one must travel for the violation to be called. The rules state what a player may or may not do with the ball, and they don't give an exception for when another player is holding the ball at the same time.

[mu4scott]

So it is legal for one of the two players to use a pivot foot correct?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mu4scott

So it is legal for one of the two players to use a pivot foot correct?

Better said: it's a violation if either of the 2 players violate the travel rule.

There is no special rule that prevents *either* from legal foot movement.

[Adam]

Each player may use his pivot foot. The traveling rule applies to any player with the ball, no changes are made if a second player has the ball also. Each player may move as if he is the only one holding the ball.

[mu4scott]

Perfect... Thank you all.

[Nevadaref]

Here is the NFHS case book play on this.

4.44.2 SITUATION B: Airborne A1 and A2 jointly grab the rebound and each alights simultaneously on both feet. A1 and A2 each move one foot in attempting to wrestle the ball from each other before realizing they are teammates. A1 lets go and A2 dribbles away. RULING: Legal. There has been no violation as neither A1 or A2 moved their pivot foot while they were in joint control.

[sseltser]

No there is no travelling violation because there is no clear possession of the ball.

I believe the rules would support that they are BOTH in control of the ball. Therefore, either may be guilty of a travelling violation.

If simultaneous possession meant that travelling could't be called, teams would have two players hold onto the ball as they ran down that floor, wouldn't they?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by sseltser

I believe the rules would support that they are BOTH in control of the ball. Therefore, either may be guilty of a travelling violation.

If simultaneous possession meant that travelling could't be called, teams would have two players hold onto the ball as they ran down that floor, wouldn't they?

Of course, you're correct. The post that you commented on was deleted by a mod. The only purpose of the post was to include a spam link. It's an old trick of spammers.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by sseltser

If simultaneous possession meant that travelling could't be called, teams would have two players hold onto the ball as they ran down that floor, wouldn't they?

I like the way you think.

To steal borrow from Jurassic - you must be a Red Sox fan.