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Jim Dixon Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:29pm

Something new for the Holidays, and the New Year! Officiating.com will periodically present issues on which you can go to our Discussion Board -- The Official Forum -- and express your views. It begins this week, and the first topic involves legal entitlement to a spot on the floor – when a player is lying on the floor.

Potential points of view may include points on legal guarding position, entitlement to a spot on the floor when a player is lying on the floor, verticality when NOT on one's feet, initiation of a foul, block, and perhaps others.

The ball gets loose in front court near the division line, and bodies are scrambling to gain control.

A1, while on her feet, finally gains possession of the ball in her back court and starts to dribble toward her front court.

B1, however, is still lying on the floor after her failed attempt to get to the ball, and is in the way of A1 who is trying to get to her front court.

Yea or Nay?

Is B1 entitled to her spot on the floor, and must A1 go around her?

Or, instead, should A1 be entitled to receive protection from <i>any</i> unintentional or non-flagrant contact that occurs whether A1 initiates it or not? (An example might be A1 attempting to hop/jump over the legs of B1 but fails to do so and goes to the floor.) If B1 does not move to initiate contact, but A1 trips over B1, is B1 or A1 at fault, and should a foul be called?

Please use proper definitions and cited rules to back up your position.

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[Edited by Jim Dixon on Dec 27th, 2001 at 11:27 AM]

BktBallRef Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:44pm

Jim, where've you been. We've been arguing this play for the last week! :eek:

Go to: http://www.officialforum.com/thread/3381

However, I'm still willing to play. The following rule and case book play apply.

It is the responisbility of A1 to go around B1.

4-23-1
...Every player is entitled to a spot on the floor provided such player gets there first without illegally contacting an opponent.

10.6.1 SITUATION E: B1 attempts to steal the ball from stationary A1 who is holding the ball. B1 misses the ball and falls to the floor. In dribbling away, A1 contacts B1's leg, loses control of the ball and falls to the floor. Ruling: No infraction or foul has occurred and play continues. Unless B1 made an effort to trip or block A1, he/she is entitled to a position on the court even if it is momentarily lying on the floor after falling down.


Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Dec 16, 2001 10:51pm

My sentiments exactly, BktBallRef.

Dan_ref Mon Dec 17, 2001 10:14am

Hey, how about we discuss this unusual play:
B1, after a made basket by team A, passes down court to B2
without stepping out of bounds.... :eek:

Mark Dexter Mon Dec 17, 2001 10:22am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Hey, how about we discuss this unusual play:
B1, after a made basket by team A, passes down court to B2
without stepping out of bounds.... :eek:

Unless we want dozens of people to have to go on blood pressure medication, let's NOT!


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