1. Something must be wrong with my computer because those are links to posts where I said Welmer only makes obvious calls - on my screen at least. That is just my opinion - and an opinion shared by some of his fellow officials.
2. This statement makes no sense and isn't related to what I said. I'm not the one that said anything about bashing officials so I don't see how you can say I'm being hypocritical. You are making this up to be sensational without even bothering to connect the dots. Can you find a quote where I got "pissy" when someone said something about Teddy V? Teddy V's ability over the years speaks for itself. He isn't a perfect official, but he will go down as one of the great college officials of all time. Until something changes, Welmer's legacy will be 120+ games a year.

I do not think of Welmer as an official who favors one team or another. I also don't think of Welmer as a horrible official - but I sure don't see him as an elite official either.

You wanted to know what everyone thought was appropriate when it came to bashing officials. Well, I gave you <b>my</b> opinion of what I <b>thought</b> was appropriate. Your constant Welmer-bashing <b>isn't</b> appropriate <b>in my opinion</b>. It basically isn't any different than the fanboys that come here solely to dump on officials, also <b>in my opinion</b>.

You're certainly entitled to <b>your</b> opinions also.

That's not the answer that you were looking for, was it?:)

This is no less ignorant than those who thinks that reffing is just showing up with a whistle.

You are wrong again! I did not bring up the term bashing so I didn't ask what was appropriate when it came to bashing officials. If you think what I say about Welmer is bashing, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I gave my opinion of Welmer; if you consider it bashing then that is your opinion. What you consider bashing is basically me speaking up and giving my opinion when someone speaks of him as if his performance is on par with a Burr, Valentine, Higgins, Libbey and on and on. It is so convenient for you to skip over things like when I said I've heard he is a good guy, but hang on to the negative. I know officials other officials that are jerks and I wouldn't mention their names. If I actually thought of Welmer as badly as you think I do I wouldn't even mention his name.
What I get from you is the opinion that if Burr calls it then it is right or if "Joe D1" calls it then it is the right call. You seem to condemn others if they say "Joe D1" screwed the pooch repeatedly whether it is true or not. My question was asked because of this type of opinion. I did not bring Welmer into this conversation because I wasn't thinking about him when I asked the original question. You are the one hanging on to this, not me. I said he (Welmer) is supposed to be a good guy, I said he makes the super obvious calls (primarily) and I said he - IMO - isn't among the elite. The results seem to be in line with what I'm saying. Maybe you should start to drink some of my Kool Aid! :D

Maybe, maybe not. Most, at a minimum, of us talk a lot during the day, every day. We do this our entire lives. How many people walk around daily with a whistle in their mouths calling fouls?

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1) How can I be wrong?:confused: I gave you my <b>opinion</b>. How can my <b>opinion</b> be wrong? Is it wrong because <b>you</b> say it's wrong?

2) See post of your's cited above. You didn't ask what was appropriate when it came to bashing officials? Someone must be posting under your name again. If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions.

3) I don't have a clue where you get that from. I said many times that <b>ANY</b> official is going to blow a call sometimes. It's not about blowing individual calls. What bothers me is the fanboys and supposed officials that question another official's integrity or courage. I don't think that is appropriate when it comes to bashing officials. Iow, I just answered the question that <b>you</b> asked above. Again, if you don't happen to like that answer, too bad.

Do you talk daily with a microphone/headset? In front of a video camera?

Being a talker does not equal being a qualified analyst.

Nor does being a former player, former coach, etc. Yet they get the jobs, don't they?:rolleyes:

officials as announcers
 

I seem to recall Mendy Rudolph having a brief career as an NBA analyst, back in the uuhhhhh, a long time ago. I was a kid, not qualified to critique anybody
or have opinions on important matters, or to know anything significant about most things........not much has changed......but I seem to recall him saying over and over, "good call by the official," notably moreso than any other analyst before or since. Anybody back me up on this or correct me?