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jkjenning Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:13am

kudos to Marbury and Wallace
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17962620/

I hope they are available in solid black! :)

M&M Guy Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:20am

And there's a little back-and-forth between Marbury and LeBron James on this issue:

http://cavaliers.aolsportsblog.com/2...s-the-15-shoe/

James: "Me, being with Nike, we hold our standards high."

Marbury: "I'd rather own than be owned."

Stay tuned.

jkjenning Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
James: "Me, being with Nike, we hold our standards high."

Marbury: "I'd rather own than be owned."

Go Marbury/Wallace!
I hope the quality of shoes is on a par with the $150 pair! What a trend this could set!

M&M Guy Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:41am

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Originally Posted by jkjenning
Go Marbury/Wallace!
I hope the quality of shoes is on a par with the $150 pair! What a trend this could set!

My guess is the quality might not be the same. However, my guess is there is also not $100 worth of extra materials and workmanship in the higher-priced shoes as well.

It seems pretty obvious marketing has just as much (if not more) of an effect on price than just quality. So don't expect Nike to go down without a fight.

Adam Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:46am

Outstanding! I think I'll buy a pair.

M&M Guy Thu Apr 05, 2007 09:48am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Outstanding! I think I'll buy a pair.

Are you gonna try the pink ones? :D

Adam Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:43am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Are you gonna try the pink ones? :D

I don't think my assigner would care for them, but for $15, I might try them on a dare. He!!, for $15, I could by them for my brothers for Christmas.

M&M Guy Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:47am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
...but for $15, I might try them on a dare.

Ok then, consider this a dare.

A double-dog dare, in fact.

And we'll need pictures to prove it.

sseltser Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:57am

http://www.starbury.com/goods.php

You can look around there, but I've seen at least one pair of black on black and another that has a very limited amount of white.

OHBBREF Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:30pm

there was a story about these on one of the news magazine shows about a week ago and they compared the quality other than Nike material being leather the actual quality of manufactuer was rule by outsiders to be the same.

Dan_ref Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy
My guess is the quality might not be the same. However, my guess is there is also not $100 worth of extra materials and workmanship in the higher-priced shoes as well.

It seems pretty obvious marketing has just as much (if not more) of an effect on price than just quality. So don't expect Nike to go down without a fight.

Wow. What a GREAT idea! And it could only work with the backing of an NBA Star<s>bury</s>. I hope this does work.

As for that extra $100 of quality materials & workmanship...maybe $98 of it goes towards brand profit & marketing. Much of the rest goes to the factory owner then whatever is left goes towards the materials. I don't suppose the actual worker supplying the workmanship even knows he's responsible for a "quality" product. He just keeps cranking them out.

Jimgolf Fri Apr 06, 2007 09:55am

My son and his friend each have a pair of the sneakers. The basketball sneakers are OK, but do not provide as much support as a pair of adidas or Nikes, IMO. They don't have the thickness of the competitors' more expensive shoes. But for young kids that don't have ankle problems yet, they're fine. I would rate them as similar to the Shaqs put out (I think) by Starter, which run in the $25 - $30 range, and some of the And1 sneakers.

The colors ran in the Knicks uniform color spectrum (white, blue, orange)

The casual sneakers are as good as any of the others by the competitors, and well worth the $10.

They did have some black sneakers that could conceivably be used as official's shoes, but the size selection was limited, and all shoes were 'D' width, so I can't give a personal review. At these prices, the stock on the selling floor is all that they offer, and there is no sales service to speak of.

Steve & Barrys is also a good source of t-shirts, polos and khakis at reasonable prices.

deecee Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:25am

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Steve & Barrys is also a good source of t-shirts, polos and khakis at reasonable prices.

are you done spamming us you spamster :p

Adam Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:55am

Jim,
I think you meant to say, "Pleased to make your acquainted. We have much excellence products to enhance your athleticism. Feel free to contacts us for any questions and answers."

canuckrefguy Fri Apr 06, 2007 01:05pm

That is awesome.

Jimgolf Fri Apr 06, 2007 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
are you done spamming us you spamster :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
there is no sales service to speak of.

With a ringing endorsement like that, it's no wonder you thought I was spamming. :rolleyes: ;)

jkjenning Sat Apr 07, 2007 01:55am

http://safaripass.com/starbury_I.jpg
Gee, it is difficult to take a decent picture of black shoes - had to jack with the settings using Gimp [plug-plug!]... these are my new Starbury's!! Apparently these are "Starbury 1s" because the "Starbury 2s" had already sold out. Who cares - this pair is a nice solid black and should be fine on the court for an official and they were remarkably comfortable in the store.

I'll get to try them out on the court during wreck league this weekend. The shoes are plenty wide, so if they are D width [box/shoe does not specify] then they are wide-Ds because most Ds I try on are too narrow.

The price of the New Balance shoes I have been wearing has limited my willingness to have more than one pair which is new enough for best support and I never have found a shoe from N.B. that felt as good [in the store] as these Starbury shoes did, and at $15 bucks I can afford to get a couple of more pairs and rotate 'em!

We'll see how my feet like them after 3 games in a row. I prefer non-synthetic material in shoes but that is getting way too expensive and/or hard to find anyway.

jkjenning Mon Apr 09, 2007 03:05am

Mixed review on my new Starbury's; maybe my feet do not like high-tops - despite having the shoes tied on firmly from the get-go, they began rubbing my upper ankle raw somewhere in the 2nd game and by the 3rd game I gave up hope of finding a method to tie them which would be comfortable [without delaying the game].

What I don't like about the shoes is that the laces are designed to be laced "to the top". Because of how they rubbed my ankle [whatever that lateral bump is called] I would want to ignore the last 2-3 eyelits when lacing them up - only problem is there is only one pair of eyelets - at the top, and the rest of the lacing passes through lace-like loops, and I wonder if they will take the stress of an abbreviated lacing.

Hopefully Wallace's shoes will be low-tops. I'll try these again next weekend with a different lacing scheme, but will have my New Balance's on hand - I have never had any foot discomfort with those shoes, but they are a low-cut shoe and that may be the key for me.

jkjenning Thu Apr 12, 2007 08:11am

As a final note, the problem with these shoes is the inner lining - it is a coarse synthetic material and has a sandpaper-like effect as I run, rubbing over the ankle area. Perhaps the Starbury II's have addressed this, or maybe the Big Ben shoes will have a smoother inner lining. In the meantime, I'll have to try double socks or something - that, or develop large calloused areas around my ankes. :)


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