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Junker Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:23pm

OJ Mayo dunk and apparent ejection
 
I just got this link off the Sport's Guy. If it's already been posted just ignore it. I think he was tossed after throwing the ball into the stands. I don't know how he will be able to coexsist with Tim Floyd, that is unless Floyd changed alot while he was in the pros. I know while at ISU one of his players pointed at a camera following a dunk and on his weekly television show Floyd assured the audience that the point was, "dealt with in practice."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RKoXNToOnk

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:31pm

First time I've seen the vid. I've gotta say I like the way the official so calmly walked over to the table and reported the T through all the hoopla.

Bad Zebra Mon Apr 02, 2007 01:49pm

OJ looked classless and self-centered with that stunt. He'll make a perfect NBA player. Maybe he should skip college.

Mountaineer Mon Apr 02, 2007 02:02pm

First of all, he can't skip college - rule change - he has to be one year removed from high school before he enters the NBA draft.

Second, David Bowles is the official and he's great. I worked with him this past year and he's very smooth. He called a T on the losing coach in the same game. The coach called a time out, which David granted, and then said something that warranted a T. David blew his whistle for the T, walked past the coach like he did in this video and as he walked past him said, "30 or 60 coach?" Very classy!

Third, OJ was not ejected. I was actually at the game on press row. This happened with about a minute left in the state championship game and there was a sub waiting at the table. They were up about 30 points and this was his "exclaimation point" on his high school career. He told one of our broadcasting crew that he was throwing the ball to his dad. Before you say, oh sure - his dad actually got the ball.

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Apr 02, 2007 02:51pm

His dad may have ended up with the ball, but OJ was hardly the one that threw it to him. That ball hit the roof before it came close to anyone in the crowd touching it.

Junker Mon Apr 02, 2007 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountaineer
First of all, he can't skip college - rule change - he has to be one year removed from high school before he enters the NBA draft.

Second, David Bowles is the official and he's great. I worked with him this past year and he's very smooth. He called a T on the losing coach in the same game. The coach called a time out, which David granted, and then said something that warranted a T. David blew his whistle for the T, walked past the coach like he did in this video and as he walked past him said, "30 or 60 coach?" Very classy!

Third, OJ was not ejected. I was actually at the game on press row. This happened with about a minute left in the state championship game and there was a sub waiting at the table. They were up about 30 points and this was his "exclaimation point" on his high school career. He told one of our broadcasting crew that he was throwing the ball to his dad. Before you say, oh sure - his dad actually got the ball.

My bad. The article I took the video from they said he was ejected. I think he should have been tossed. I don't care who he's throwing the ball to, he needs to go.

Mwanr1 Mon Apr 02, 2007 03:25pm

this kid seems like a punk!

bgtg19 Mon Apr 02, 2007 03:40pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
This happened with about a minute left in the state championship game and there was a sub waiting at the table. They were up about 30 points and this was his "exclaimation [sic] point" on his high school career.

Up 30 with a minute to play and coach still has Mayo in the game? (And it's not like the sub was waiting at the table for a long time waiting for a chance to check in - that video begins with a throw in.) Teammates jumping all over him and hugging him after that "display"? It may be connected to a school, but there does not appear to be much education going on with that basketball program/team.

Mwanr1 Mon Apr 02, 2007 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by bgtg19
Up 30 with a minute to play and coach still has Mayo in the game? (And it's not like the sub was waiting at the table for a long time waiting for a chance to check in - that video begins with a throw in.) Teammates jumping all over him and hugging him after that "display"? It may be connected to a school, but there does not appear to be much education going on with that basketball program/team.

The school does not care about his education. The only thing they care about is winning with this kid. I strongly believe he's there strictly for basketball only. The sad thing is that his parents, teachers, school and himself knew that all along.

Mountaineer Mon Apr 02, 2007 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
His dad may have ended up with the ball, but OJ was hardly the one that threw it to him. That ball hit the roof before it came close to anyone in the crowd touching it.

Well not really hit the roof - it didn't even make it high as the second level. As strong as the kid is, I don't think he could hit the roof with a ball. I know it's WV, but the coliseum does seat over 12,000 - there was just a little over 10,000 in attendance.

And you guys can blast the kid and the school - Lord knows I have, but remember he IS a kid. And show me a high school with that much talent on it from a little place like Huntington, WV. Every kid on that team was born and raised in Huntington. OJ moved away but came back, Bill Walker at Kansas St. was supposed to be in that class too and someone said there's a kid in Mississippi that moved away when he was in 8th that is going to a major D1 next year too. Teams like Oak Hill recruit for their talent - Huntington just got "lucky".

I think he's going to have difficulty next year too, but you cannot deny his talent.

Mark Dexter Mon Apr 02, 2007 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
He told one of our broadcasting crew that he was throwing the ball to his dad. Before you say, oh sure - his dad actually got the ball.

In Mayo's defense - after seeing the video that SportsGuy linked to, you could at least tell that he was throwing the ball into a section of his team's fans.

Even still, I think I'd lean very heavily towards the flagrant T in this situation - no matter to or at whom the ball was thrown.

jontheref Mon Apr 02, 2007 05:10pm

I just saw the several vids on this OJ Mayo guy. Never saw any of it before. Wow. Just imagine...whereever he goes to college, who Ts him up first....or better yet, can you see a Bobby Knight or a Coach K put up with that act much? Wow thats all I can say.

Adam Mon Apr 02, 2007 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by jontheref
I just saw the several vids on this OJ Mayo guy. Never saw any of it before. Wow. Just imagine...whereever he goes to college, who Ts him up first....or better yet, can you see a Bobby Knight or a Coach K put up with that act much? Wow thats all I can say.

I'll be extremely surprised to see Tim Floyd put up with it. He'll have to either check his attitude or he'll get to know the waterboy pretty well. I don't see him sticking around USC too long.

Jurassic Referee Mon Apr 02, 2007 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I'll be extremely surprised to see Tim Floyd put up with it. He'll have to either check his attitude or he'll get to know the waterboy pretty well. I don't see him sticking around USC too long.

At USC? The home of Reggie Bush? LOL.......:D

USC will put up with him as long as he produces.

It ain't a question of <b>if</b> Mayo is getting something under the table there. It's a question of <b>how much</b> he's getting.

Do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too, Snaqs? Maybe even that Old School is actually a referee?

26 Year Gap Mon Apr 02, 2007 07:17pm

Haven't I seen this thread before?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QWKdokcvM7A

Haven't I seen this thread before?

BktBallRef Mon Apr 02, 2007 08:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
First of all, he can't skip college - rule change - he has to be one year removed from high school before he enters the NBA draft.

Of course he can skip college. There's no rule that says he has to play college basketball.

wildcatter Mon Apr 02, 2007 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
At USC? The home of Reggie Bush? LOL.......:D

USC will put up with him as long as he produces.

It ain't a question of <b>if</b> Mayo is getting something under the table there. It's a question of <b>how much</b> he's getting.

Do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too, Snaqs? Maybe even that Old School is actually a referee?


I'm no USC fan, and I know you're joking a little, but painting USC as the wrongdoers in this case is just wrong! I mean, Bush would have done that at any school probably...

Floyd didn't even actively recruit Mayo - Mayo is simply full of himself and wanted the media attention that USC would give him. At some point, players like Mayo/Bush (who aren't exactly in the same class) have to take responsibility for their own actions!

(This coming from the guy that went to the same high school as Kareem/JaRon Rush...)

sj Tue Apr 03, 2007 07:47am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I'll be extremely surprised to see Tim Floyd put up with it. He'll have to either check his attitude or he'll get to know the waterboy pretty well. I don't see him sticking around USC too long.

Floyd was interviewed a couple of weeks ago and when they asked him about Mayo and the other incident Floyd defended the kid saying how the ref flopped. He was pretty adamant in standing up for him. Whether or not the ref flopped or not is immaterial. The fact is the kid walked after and did make contact with the ref on purpose but Floyd was defending him anyway.

Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 03, 2007 08:16am

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Originally Posted by wildcatter
I'm no USC fan, and <font color = red>I know you're joking a little</font>, but painting USC as the wrongdoers in this case is just wrong!

I wasn't joking at all.

Did you read that Yahoo series on Bush?

Junker Tue Apr 03, 2007 08:26am

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Originally Posted by sj
Floyd was interviewed a couple of weeks ago and when they asked him about Mayo and the other incident Floyd defended the kid saying how the ref flopped. He was pretty adamant in standing up for him. Whether or not the ref flopped or not is immaterial. The fact is the kid walked after and did make contact with the ref on purpose but Floyd was defending him anyway.

That really suprises me. At ISU we had a forward (the immortal Kenny Pratt) who got in trouble for kicking a police officer. Floyd immediately tossed him from the team only to have the university reinstate him until his trial. Miraculously the trial was moved until after the NCAA touranment and we went to the Sweet 16. I was pretty embarrassed as an ISU fan. That is not what college athletics should be about, but unfortunately it is.

Mountaineer Tue Apr 03, 2007 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Of course he can skip college. There's no rule that says he has to play college basketball.

OK, yes he can skip college - but he cannot enter the NBA draft this year. It would be foolish for him to skip a year of playing ball. He could play in Europe for a year if he desires.

Junker Tue Apr 03, 2007 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
OK, yes he can skip college - but he cannot enter the NBA draft this year. It would be foolish for him to skip a year of playing ball. He could play in Europe for a year if he desires.

Maybe go there and stay there? :D

sj Tue Apr 03, 2007 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Junker
That really suprises me. At ISU we had a forward (the immortal Kenny Pratt) who got in trouble for kicking a police officer. Floyd immediately tossed him from the team only to have the university reinstate him until his trial. Miraculously the trial was moved until after the NCAA touranment and we went to the Sweet 16. I was pretty embarrassed as an ISU fan. That is not what college athletics should be about, but unfortunately it is.

It surprised me too. It surprised me how adamant he was. He was real big on how "that ref flopped!" But signing day isn't for a few days yet. An Iowa State guy huh? I grew up going to Iowa State games when Hilton coliseum first opened and also got my undergrad degree there. My dad bought season tickets. If I remember right they were $3 a game. And they were on the lower half.

Junker Tue Apr 03, 2007 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by sj
It surprised me too. It surprised me how adamant he was. He was real big on how "that ref flopped!" But signing day isn't for a few days yet. An Iowa State guy huh? I grew up going to Iowa State games when Hilton coliseum first opened and also got my undergrad degree there. My dad bought season tickets. If I remember right they were $3 a game. And they were on the lower half.

I was there for Floyd's first season through Eustacy's first. I was really impressed with the way both ran the program. I only made it to 2 games this season. My reffing schedule kept me busy and on my off nights I didn't feel like driving (I'm a little less than an hour from Ames).

sj Tue Apr 03, 2007 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by Junker
I was there for Floyd's first season through Eustacy's first. I was really impressed with the way both ran the program. I only made it to 2 games this season. My reffing schedule kept me busy and on my off nights I didn't feel like driving (I'm a little less than an hour from Ames).

I'm sure everyone else is fascinated by this conversation but I grew up in Webster City. Where are you?

earmitage Tue Apr 03, 2007 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer
Well not really hit the roof - it didn't even make it high as the second level. As strong as the kid is, I don't think he could hit the roof with a ball. I know it's WV, but the coliseum does seat over 12,000 - there was just a little over 10,000 in attendance.

And you guys can blast the kid and the school - Lord knows I have, but remember he IS a kid. And show me a high school with that much talent on it from a little place like Huntington, WV. Every kid on that team was born and raised in Huntington. OJ moved away but came back, Bill Walker at Kansas St. was supposed to be in that class too and someone said there's a kid in Mississippi that moved away when he was in 8th that is going to a major D1 next year too. Teams like Oak Hill recruit for their talent - Huntington just got "lucky".

I think he's going to have difficulty next year too, but you cannot deny his talent.

Larry, actually Bill Walker played varsity as an 8th grader in Kentucky. I watched Walker, Mayo and Ellis win the state championship as sophomores. They repeated the following year without Ellis because he had emotional problems and was kicked off the team. What a shame because he was 6'11" as a sophomore. I was really looking forward to a 3 peat when word got out that Walker was ineligible.

I'll tell you something, I learned a lot watching those "kids" play ball over those two years. Walker and Mayo both have a lot of growing up to do, there is no disputing that and I couldn't stand the way Walker would allow himself to be suckered into confrontations. Too often he appeared to be looking for it. But, conversely, when I say I learned a lot, I saw a lot of "good white Catholic boys" from schools like Summit and Country Day take real cheap shots at these guys. In some instances, Walker could have been seriously hurt the way he was undercut on some of his unbelievable dunks. Whereas initially I tended to only see the strut and immaturity of Walker and Mayo, I also saw these boys getting targeted game after game.

jkjenning Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:18pm

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Originally Posted by sj
I'm sure everyone else is fascinated by this conversation ...

ZZZzzzzz :)
Actually, my wife is from Des Moines and I would have loved to have attended Iowa State for a graduate degree - oh well, life moved in a different direction; about seven years ago I had my kids convinced for a few weeks that we were going to move - the Computer Engineering program there really produces while the program in San Antonio is bogged down in faculty-vs-faculty politics.
...what was this thread about anyway? :D

Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
Too often he appeared to be looking for it. But, conversely, when I say I learned a lot, I saw a lot of <font color = red>"good white Catholic boys"</font> from schools like Summit and Country Day take real cheap shots at these guys.

I think that you need to go somewhere else and take your racial and religious sh!t with you.

We don't need that crap here. We also don't need azzholes like you here either.

Piss off!

Adam Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by sj
I'm sure everyone else is fascinated by this conversation but I grew up in Webster City. Where are you?

No one else will recognize these names, but my grandmother grew up in Lehigh and my wife grew up in Gowrie.

earmitage Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I think that you need to go somewhere else and take your racial and religious sh!t with you.

We don't need that crap here. We also don't need azzholes like you here either.

Piss off!

My sons are "good white Catholic boys." You don't get it, do you? Do you even understand the point of the post? Too often inner city kids are characterized as thugs and punks. I have been guilty of this stereotype myself. It was the whole point of the post. Too often kids like Walker and Mayo are mischaracterized.

JR, you are WAY too emotional. And you ref?

sj Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:43pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
No one else will recognize these names, but my grandmother grew up in Lehigh and my wife grew up in Gowrie.

I've driven through Lehigh many times on the way to scout camp at Doliver Park.
Kind of built on a hillside if I remember.

TimTaylor Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by jkjenning
ZZZzzzzz :)
Actually, my wife is from Des Moines and I would have loved to have attended Iowa State for a graduate degree - oh well, life moved in a different direction; about seven years ago I had my kids convinced for a few weeks that we were going to move - the Computer Engineering program there really produces while the program in San Antonio is bogged down in faculty-vs-faculty politics.
...what was this thread about anyway? :D

I spent a year in Burlington one January..............

You in SA? My son graduates from Trinity in May.......

Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 03, 2007 05:52pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
And you ref?

Yes, I ref. And I get it too. And I also despise azzholes like you.

Don't take that personally though....:)

earmitage Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yes, I ref. And I get it too. And I also despise azzholes like you.

Don't take that personally though....:)

Let's see, 13,000+ posts. Roughly 3 minutes per post equates to about 500 days posting on this site, if you were posting 24 hours a day every single day of the year! Over 1000 days or almost 3 years if you were posting 12 hours a day. You have only been a member since 2001. My Lord.

Truly, man, get a life! And, yeah, you can take it personally because that is all you have been doing the moment you opened your yap, spewing nonsense.

Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:10pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
Truly, man, get a life! And, yeah, you can take it personally because that is all you have been doing the moment you opened your yap, spewing nonsense.

Fuk off.

Please take that personally.

deecee Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:13pm

ooo an

e-FIGHT

Mwanr1 Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:14pm

In all honest opinion - I RESPECT YOU JURASSIC!!! KEEP POSTING!!!

Adam Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by sj
I've driven through Lehigh many times on the way to scout camp at Doliver Park.
Kind of built on a hillside if I remember.

It sits deep in a valley of the DM river. My grandfather grew up in Webster City, but he's buried in a cemetary just northwest of Lehigh. when we're back in Iowa, we spend lot of time in Fort Dodge (my wife's father's family is there) and Des Moines (my family).
Our wedding reception was at Dolliver. Nice park.

earmitage Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Fuk off.

Please take that personally.

You keep hiding behind your referee's skirt, but I have yet to see you address a single complaint in an articulate, measured tone. Why don't you at least attempt to explain why the final game was called the way it was? You keep wanting to take offense that anyone, God forbid a lowly fan, would question a call that was made. Why don't you back it up with the rule book instead of childish innuendo?

jkjenning Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:35pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor
I spent a year in Burlington one January..............

You in SA? My son graduates from Trinity in May.......

Trinity is about 3 miles south of us - heard a great organ recital there a couple of weeks ago; one of my dearest friends builds pipe organs and keeps me informed of recitals and such. Congrats on the graduation! We'll have four kids in college next year, with the oldest a senior and the youngest a freshman! :eek: "four more years" will have a very non-political ring in our household! :D

jkjenning Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
...God forbid a lowly fan, would question a call that was made. Why don't you back it up with the rule book instead of childish innuendo?

Go get a whistle, work a year as an official and then come back to this board and post your comments - until then you have no room to mouth off.
Wait - one year is too short to give you any rights... but one year is plenty of time to change your perspective - guaranteed!

deecee Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
You keep hiding behind your referee's skirt, but I have yet to see you address a single complaint in an articulate, measured tone. Why don't you at least attempt to explain why the final game was called the way it was? You keep wanting to take offense that anyone, God forbid a lowly fan, would question a call that was made. Why don't you back it up with the rule book instead of childish innuendo?


How are any of us to explain why and how a game was called that none of us worked?

maybe you should contact the officials that worked the game and file a complaint with the NCAA regarding this.

From what I saw the game was well officiated -- couple calls seems "Oh RLY" but I (we) have the advantage of replays with multiple angles and multiple speeds.

why not look at free throw disparities OSU -- 11/17 and FLA -- 22/25
or 3-point differenct OSU -- 4/23 and FLA -- 10/18

how about the fact that the gators had twice as many turnovers as the buckeyes 15-7 or that the buckeyes were outrebounded 38-27.

the fouls were 19 for florida and 20 for OSU.

OH and OSU had 11 steals to Florida's 5.

So it looks like OSU couldnt Hit from the outside, couldn't capitalize on turovers, werent trying to get to the line (which when they made it there they shot sub 65%).

But the OFFICIALS 1 or 2 questionable calls were what led OSU to lose -- right. Do you see why we dont have much respect for fanboys. Because like most who cannot grasp reality and admit defeat always want to try and find fault and blame elsewhere than the fact that OSU WAS OUTPLAYED.

Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:43pm

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Originally Posted by earmitage
Why don't you at least attempt to explain why the final game was called the way it was?

You've been told "why". It's a complete waste of time trying to explain something to someone who is <b>not</b> going to believe you anyway, no matter what you say. Your mind is made up, and it was made up from the git-go. That's cool. If you want to believe that the bad ol' officials deliberately screwed up the game, there's not one damn thing that anyone here can say that will change your mind. Hell, we know that. It's not like you're the first clueless fanboy that came wandering onto this site and decided that he was gonna straighten up all of those stoopid officials. You're just one of many fanboys that wander in at this time of year, and basically you're all the same too. Clueless dickheads.

Don't take that that personally though.....:)

Adam Tue Apr 03, 2007 06:45pm

Jurassic gets the Oscar for Best Use of Smiley.


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