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rainmaker Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:07am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they would have done the play-in if the Mets had won yesterday and forged a tie with Philly, SD, and CO. Two teams tied for the division lead tied with two other teams for the wild card lead.

Exactly. Saturday night, addled with cranberry pop, and exhausted from the wild evening of Uno, lying in my top bunk in my sleeping bag, I was losing sleep over this. More play-in games than the play-offs!

Jimgolf Mon Oct 01, 2007 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
And then, you give up a 2-out bases loaded bunt for a hit to lose the game? That's just bizarre. Who would even attempt a bunt with 2 outs and the bases loaded? Was ARod playing on the outfield grass or something?

Wasn't ARod. They had Wilson Betemit in there. After playing in on the grass for the first two outs, the infield relaxed and moved way back. Betemit was indeed very close to the outfield grass. Perfect bunt by Mora, hard enough that the pitcher couldn't make a play, soft enough that Betemit had no chance.

Mark Dexter Mon Oct 01, 2007 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they would have done the play-in if the Mets had won yesterday and forged a tie with Philly, SD, and CO. Two teams tied for the division lead tied with two other teams for the wild card lead.

This came up on a few news stories.

I'm pretty sure that the Mets and Phils would have played a 1-game playoff to determine the division leader. Then, depending on who won that, there'd be a round-robin of sorts to determine the NL wild card.

Adam Mon Oct 01, 2007 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
This came up on a few news stories.

I'm pretty sure that the Mets and Phils would have played a 1-game playoff to determine the division leader. Then, depending on who won that, there'd be a round-robin of sorts to determine the NL wild card.

That makes sense, do the RR between the remaining three teams.

Nevadaref Mon Oct 01, 2007 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
That makes sense, do the RR between the remaining three teams.

And what it that yields all teams being 1-1? ;)

I don't really know how a tie amongst more than one team is handled. I do know that the division winner is determined first though.

It would have been fun to see. I was rooting for a four-way tie myself.

Nevadaref Mon Oct 01, 2007 06:54pm

Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
And what it that yields all teams being 1-1? ;)

I don't really know how a tie amongst more than one team is handled. I do know that the division winner is determined first though.

It would have been fun to see. I was rooting for a four-way tie myself.

They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 07:14pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

Has to be postseason. Regular season is over.

Dan_ref Mon Oct 01, 2007 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
They would not have done round robin -- takes too long, and could end indecisively.

More likely: draw lots for a "bye," the other 2 teams play, the bye team plays the winner for the wild card spot. Done decisively in 2 days.

Yes, that's what I remember reading on Saturday. Somehow the best of the 4 is selected by record for a bye or by lot if needed.

Nevadaref Mon Oct 01, 2007 07:39pm

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Who on here knows if the stats from this tiebreaker game between the Padres and Rockies count toward the regular season or postseason?

For example, has Holliday won the batting title already or is he risking it tonight?

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Has to be postseason. Regular season is over.

Do you know for sure as I asked or are you just guessing? Because I happen to think that you are incorrect.

mbyron Mon Oct 01, 2007 09:24pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Do you know for sure as I asked or are you just guessing? Because I happen to think that you are incorrect.

You're right: I am. How odd that a playoff game can affect a batting title.

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ChuckElias Tue Oct 02, 2007 07:42am

No posts about the Padres/Rockies game? What an unbelievable way to end the regular season. One game playoff that goes extra innings. The best closer in the NL blows the save and loses the game. Controversial calls, little known guys coming up huge for both teams. Ugly uniforms on the Padres, too.

14 wins in 15 games sure will go a long way to making the playoffs!

JugglingReferee Tue Oct 02, 2007 07:46am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
No posts about the Padres/Rockies game? What an unbelievable way to end the regular season. One game playoff that goes extra innings. The best closer in the NL blows the save and loses the game. Controversial calls, little known guys coming up huge for both teams. Ugly uniforms on the Padres, too.

14 wins in 15 games sure will go a long way to making the playoffs!

I don't think the guy touched home plate. If I am correct, why is the runner safe? :confused:

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 02, 2007 08:50am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
I don't think the guy touched home plate. If I am correct, why is the runner safe? :confused:

The runner was safe because the umpire ruled that he did touch home. Iow, you aren't correct(even if you are correct).

There's a big discussion on the <i>beisbol</i> forum as to whether the call was missed or not. Moot point now anyway.

M&M Guy Tue Oct 02, 2007 08:53am

I wish I had a chance to see it; I could only catch the scores on ESPN's bottom line.

Weren't there a couple of controversial calls that game besides the play at the plate? Was there something about a home run being called double?

And, if this is considered a regular-season game, why did they use 6 umpires? Don't they only use the extra umpires in post-season?


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