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Nevadaref Thu Sep 06, 2007 07:57pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
[from the Detroit news]
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Appalachian State is not eligible to receive votes in the AP Top 25 poll because the school is not in the Football Bowl Subdivision.


This seems to be the same AP article, but there are a couple of small differences.

What a silly rule. If they are one of the top 25 teams in the country, then who cares what division they play in?

BTW, this must be a new rule as I know of several teams in years past that earned a top 25 ranking while playing at the 1-AA level.

At least one group has come to their senses and corrected an injustice.

Sep 6, 2007 3:24 pm US/Pacific
http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_249183200.html
App. State Eligible For Div. 1 AP Top 25 Poll

(AP) After pulling off one of the greatest upsets in college football history, Appalachian State is still shaking things up.

The Associated Press said Thursday that lower-division schools -- that means you, Mountaineers -- are now eligible for its 71-year-old poll.

"It's great they opened the door," Appalachian State coach Jerry Moore said. "Certainly we're not going to be the No. 1 team in the country.

We know that. We're not even going to be in the top 10.

But if you have a win over a nice football team, I like that it's not out of the realm of possibility for a school like us to be
one of the top 20 or 25 teams in the country."

Several AP voters expressed interest in putting Appalachian State on their ballots after a shocking 34-32 upset at then-No. 5 Michigan last weekend.

But the poll guidelines, which mirrored the coaches' rankings conducted by USA Today, limited eligibility to teams competing in the former NCAA Division I-A, now known as the Football Bowl Subdivision.

The Mountaineers compete in the Football Championship Subdivision, known before this season as Division I-AA.

The AP decided to make the change because schools that show they can compete with big-time teams on the field should have a chance to be recognized with them in the top 25, Sports Editor Terry Taylor said.

Adam Thu Sep 06, 2007 08:03pm

So? Have you found any confirmation that a 1-AA team has evern been ranked in the 1-A poll before?

Nevadaref Thu Sep 06, 2007 08:41pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
So? Have you found any confirmation that a 1-AA team has ever been ranked in the 1-A poll before?

I know that it is true. I can tell you for a fact that Nevada did it in 1986. :)

They did not keep the ranking for the final poll though as they lost in the 1-AA semifinals to Georgia Southern 48-38 and finished 13-1.

Jurassic Referee Fri Sep 07, 2007 05:33am

Sad story.......

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...pply_of_h.html

More names to come too........

mick Fri Sep 07, 2007 07:10am

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/en...smiley-008.gif<IIII>

Adam Fri Sep 07, 2007 07:29am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Sad story.......

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...pply_of_h.html

More names to come too........

My understanding is that he quit doing it before Baseball banned it; and that at this point, the federal probe isn't accusing him of any wrong doing.

Jurassic Referee Fri Sep 07, 2007 07:38am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
My understanding is that he quit doing it before Baseball banned it; and that at this point, the federal probe isn't accusing him of any wrong doing.

Legally, he's probably in the clear.

Morally?

And......the basic problem with HGH remains. There isn't a reliable test for it yet afaik, so it can be used with relative impunity if received from a confidential source. I have this funny kind of feeling that we all might be amazed if we did find out about the actual incidence of HGH usage in professional sports.

mick Fri Sep 07, 2007 07:44am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Legally, he's probably in the clear.

"In the clear" ?
I get it !

Same with Mark and Barry, methinks.

mbyron Fri Sep 07, 2007 08:01am

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Originally Posted by mick

Given Jim Leyland's recent remarks, perhaps you might direct your focus to opponents of those-who-must-not-be-named.
Leyland turns focus to wild card (Detroit News)

mick Fri Sep 07, 2007 08:18am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Given Jim Leyland's recent remarks, perhaps you might direct your focus to opponents of those-who-must-not-be-named.
Leyland turns focus to wild card (Detroit News)

Lord Byron,
I read that earlier this week.
He's wrong, or more likely, he was just trying to disarm the Tribe, ...to keep them from looking over their shoulders and seeing a team that just got three pitchers back, and a slugger. [Heck, Kenny Rogers threw a (one) pitch in the mid-90s t'other day, Rodney is up to mid-90s, and ZoomZoom is finding triple digits.] ;)

mbyron Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:04am

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Originally Posted by mick
Lord Byron,
I read that earlier this week.
He's wrong, or more likely, he was just trying to disarm the Tribe, ...to keep them from looking over their shoulders and seeing a team that just got three pitchers back, and a slugger. [Heck, Kenny Rogers threw a (one) pitch in the mid-90s t'other day, Rodney is up to mid-90s, and ZoomZoom is finding triple digits.] ;)

OK, well, you just keep your dreams alive for 22 more games, but remember: the higher your hopes, the harder the crash landing. ;)

mick Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:21am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
OK, well, you just keep your dreams alive for 22 more games, but remember: the higher your hopes, the harder the crash landing. ;)

Higher the hopes ?
Ha !
Detroit went on a free fall 6 weeks ago. Right now I can feel a sense of a chute opening.

Mark Dexter Fri Sep 07, 2007 04:02pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And......the basic problem with HGH remains. There isn't a reliable test for it yet afaik, so it can be used with relative impunity if received from a confidential source.

So far - you're right. But we're getting pretty close.

mbyron Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:05pm

Hey Mick, you might be interested to know that the Indians' AA team (Akron) is playing the Tigers' AA team (Erie) in the Eastern League division series.

I went to the game tonight and saw Akron beat Erie to take a 2-1 lead in the best of 5 series. Jeromy Sowers pitched a beauty.

mick Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:01am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Hey Mick, you might be interested to know that the Indians' AA team (Akron) is playing the Tigers' AA team (Erie) in the Eastern League division series.
Lord Byron,
I went to the game tonight and saw Akron beat Erie to take a 2-1 lead in the best of 5 series. Jeromy Sowers pitched a beauty.

Hey, that's pretty cool. I think I saw (on TV) about 5 minor leaguers playing in Detroit tonight. I think some of them came from the Erie team.

Man, I would enjoy seeing a Minor league game ! I think our nearest possibility is in Madison, Wisconsin.

Close one on the Left Coast tonight.


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