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jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:17pm

Oden needs to get Paid for This!
 
There is no point in Greg Oden playing anymore for free when typical plays like this all season long never get called.

http://www.dispatch.com/sites/dispat...7-osu-x/06.jpg


But let him commit a hard foul and two days in the electric chair are not enough.

I hope gets 7 billion $ to escape the hell of being a big man.

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:32pm

FAnboy alert.

jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:56pm

I am a registered baseball and softball official and have been for 35 years.

If you disagree with my post then explain the non-call and the willingness of most on here to base their view of an intentional foul on TV pictures.

BktBallRef Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:12pm

And exactly how are we supposed to KNOW this was a no-call? And even if it was, why do you come here and try to make out like this happens all the time? Have you never missed a call? You must be ****ing perfect! Congratulations!

BTW, I hope he stays around for four years. Ohio State would be close to unstoppable if Oden were to go pro. He's SLOWWWWWWWWWWW. I'd take Durant over Oden in a NY minute!

jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:48pm

Then take Durant.

The play in the picture was a no call just seconds before the Oden foul no one was shy about calling an intentional foul.

I repeat the question,,,,if you are going to call an intentional foul based on pictures, then explain how this one was missed?

It seems you have no aversion to hanging the game offiicials out to dry when it serves your bias.

And I repeat, if a big man has to put up with this consistently then no one should begrudge him making a choice to get paid for it.

BktBallRef Thu Mar 22, 2007 07:55pm

Go away fanboy, nobody's interested.

jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 08:35pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Go away fanboy, nobody's interested.

Must had hit a nerve.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 22, 2007 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimpiano
Then take Durant.

The play in the picture was a no call just seconds before the Oden foul no one was shy about calling an intentional foul.

I repeat the question,,,,if you are going to call an intentional foul based on pictures, then explain how this one was missed?

It seems you have no aversion to hanging the game offiicials out to dry when it serves your bias.

And I repeat, if a big man has to put up with this consistently then no one should begrudge him making a choice to get paid for it.

And I take it that you know all this from vast experience as a basketball official, and your vast knowledge of the basketball rule book?

Go umpire a softball game somewhere, fanboy. This site is for real officials, not whiny fanboy jerks like you.

Shoo, shoo......

Every March --same old, same old......

jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 09:07pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And I take it that you know all this from vast experience as a basketball official, and your vast knowledge of the basketball rule book?

Go umpire a softball game somewhere, fanboy. This site is for real officials, not whiny fanboy jerks like you.

Shoo, shoo......

Every March --same old, same old......

Ad hominems instead of answers?

voiceoflg Thu Mar 22, 2007 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Ad hominems instead of answers?

This is an official's forum. If you aren't an official, then you are a guest in their "house." You will be treated seriously and with respect if you give respect. If you give none, you get none.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 22, 2007 09:20pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Ad hominems instead of answers?

You don't want answers. You want to whine, moan, cry and b!tch..

Piss off, fanboy.

Please don't take that personally though.:)

JRutledge Thu Mar 22, 2007 09:20pm

Since you are such a great official in softball and baseball, I am sure I can watch a game of yours and show a pitch you have completely missed or a tag play that you got wrong.

For one you cannot take a snapshot of anything and say that is what it is. For all we know Oden could have got his arm free or was the person that put his arm behind himself as he was flailing for the ball.

Games are not called by pictures. But you are a long time umpire and you should know that.

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:32pm

There's a difference, for one, between a snapshot of one moment in time and a motion picture. It even gets better when we add sound, known in the olden days as "talkies."
Most of us don't give a rat's a$$ whether that college from Columbus wins any more games in this tournament. In general, I'm a Big Ten fan, so I tend to root for them against other conferences. This play, however, seems to have been an intentional foul that the officials missed. No one's hanging them out to dry; hell, they're probably looking at the replay saying the same thing.

I'm surprised it took this long for the first fanboy to show up.

jimpiano Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:40pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Since you are such a great official in softball and baseball, I am sure I can watch a game of yours and show a pitch you have completely missed or a tag play that you got wrong.

For one you cannot take a snapshot of anything and say that is what it is. For all we know Oden could have got his arm free or was the person that put his arm behind himself as he was flailing for the ball.

Games are not called by pictures. But you are a long time umpire and you should know that.

Peace

Except of course when you want them to be.

MJT Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimpiano
There is no point in Greg Oden playing anymore for free when typical plays like this all season long never get called.

http://www.dispatch.com/sites/dispat...7-osu-x/06.jpg


But let him commit a hard foul and two days in the electric chair are not enough.

I hope gets 7 billion $ to escape the hell of being a big man.

Pretty sure in the picture the Xavier #1 player is holding Oden's left arm down. You'd better stick to SB and BSB, cuz if you want to call that one on Oden, you'd really be a bad BB official!:)

Adam Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:57am

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Originally Posted by MJT
Pretty sure in the picture the Xavier #1 player is holding Oden's left arm down. You'd better stick to SB and BSB, cuz if you want to call that one on Oden, you'd really be a bad BB official!:)

He's crying because he thinks Oden gets abused regularly.

jimpiano Fri Mar 23, 2007 02:11am

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Originally Posted by MJT
Pretty sure in the picture the Xavier #1 player is holding Oden's left arm down. You'd better stick to SB and BSB, cuz if you want to call that one on Oden, you'd really be a bad BB official!:)

Really?

You mean Oden got fouled and there was no call?

Wow.

That has happened a mere 786 times this year.

A rarity I am sure.

jkjenning Fri Mar 23, 2007 06:35am

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Originally Posted by MJT
Pretty sure in the picture the Xavier #1 player is holding Oden's left arm down. You'd better stick to SB and BSB, cuz if you want to call that one on Oden, you'd really be a bad BB official!:)

Chances are better that the hold was overlooked - would anyone really see that kind of hold "as it appears in the still" and not call it? I don't think passing on that call would make anyone a legacy of being a good official. It's horrible to post a snapshot and try to make a case, though - maybe they both had their arms interlocked before this happened! A lot goes on that no doubt is classified as 'give and take' so no advantage gained and I'm sure any official who saw that, and the entire play from that point of view, would have sound reasoning behind not making the call.

jkjenning Fri Mar 23, 2007 06:51am

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
There is no point in Greg Oden playing anymore for free when typical plays like this all season long never get called.

Like it will get any better in the NBA. Go back and look at the tape and you can see that the Lead was straight-lined on this call - at the moment that picture was most likely taken, Center had a player between him and that matchup and no doubt had other things to look at. Posting the still shot was lousy. :mad:

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 23, 2007 07:16am

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Originally Posted by jkjenning
Chances are better that the hold was overlooked - would anyone really see that kind of hold "as it appears in the still" and not call it?

From an official's standpoint, it's impossible to call anything from that photograph. You simply have no idea who is holding who, if any. Fanboys don't understand that.

ChrisSportsFan Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:02am

Oden should thank all the officials that have allowed him to play physical and the defenders to be physical with him. That's how it's gonna be a the next level. ;)

Rich Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:26am

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Ad hominems instead of answers?

Ad hominem, hominy grits, who gives a ****

Another one on my ignore list.

I loved the player control call on Oden's swim move in the first half, BTW.

jimpiano Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:28am

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Originally Posted by jkjenning
Like it will get any better in the NBA. Go back and look at the tape and you can see that the Lead was straight-lined on this call - at the moment that picture was most likely taken, Center had a player between him and that matchup and no doubt had other things to look at. Posting the still shot was lousy. :mad:

Which was my only point. In the NBA he gets paid handsomely to get abused.


And it is interesting to see how many here will dismiss a photograph in one case, yet embrace another one, or a youtube video, to underscore their feelings.
Very few camera angles tell the story from the official's perspective and none of them, with the exceptions of timing and line calls, can ever be believed as proving or disproving the call on the floor or on the field.

rockyroad Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:45am

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Which was my only point. In the NBA he gets paid handsomely to get abused.


And it is interesting to see how many here will dismiss a photograph in one case, yet embrace another one, or a youtube video, to underscore their feelings.
Very few camera angles tell the story from the official's perspective and none of them, with the exceptions of timing and line calls, can ever be believed as proving or disproving the call on the floor or on the field.

Hey fan-boy, go back and read the discussions on the possible intentional foul again...you will see that posters who made comments about the officials being bad got pasted just like you have been...we are equal opportunity fan-boy bashers...

Adam Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:47am

Abused? Good grief, someone call child services.

deecee Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:57am

wow -- when you are done bending over and taking it from Oden tonight and the two of you are cuddling....

now that you have proven to us about your abilities as a baseball and softball umpire I must agree with you -- definitly looked like a foul. however the 50-100 snapshots before and after that are needed to determine who initiated the tangle-up and how quickly it might have been resolved and the angles the officials had of the play.

other than that go eat a turd.

JRutledge Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:11am

This post proves to me why I say the things I do about baseball and softball umpires. ;)

For the record I am a baseball umpire for about the same time as I have worked basketball.

Peace

rockyroad Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:34am

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Originally Posted by deecee
wow -- when you are done bending over and taking it from Oden tonight and the two of you are cuddling....


other than that go eat a turd.

ROFLMAO!! That is hilarious...other than the part about the turd - that's just gross!!

jeffpea Fri Mar 23, 2007 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimpiano
I am a registered baseball and softball official and have been for 35 years.

If you disagree with my post then explain the non-call and the willingness of most on here to base their view of an intentional foul on TV pictures.

Since you are a "registered baseball and softball official and have been for 35 years"....can you please explain how Don Denkinger called Jorge Orta safe at first base during the 9th inning of Game 6 in the 1985 World Series?


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nl/...s/Orta85WS.JPG

If you disagree with my post, then please explain this wrong-call and your willingness to bash basketball officials in this forum.


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