I've heard and read that you can give an unsporting T to a player who fakes being charged (real goes wild like a limb got cut off). Question is, if this situation occurs do you penalize the block and assess a T, or just the T?

Thanks in advance.

If he flops and fakes the charge, it can't be a block. It's either a fake, or a block but not both. Or you can no call it. My suggestion is that you either no call it or call it a block.

I got nuthin'.

I'm rather new, but I have heard the same thing. And it seemed to be mentioned at the ref camp I went to this summer. I would only call it if it was an obvious fake that was really dramatic - a simple movement back as if they were hit would probably get a no-call from me. The only problem I can see is a large reaction from the coach, like "He didn't do nuttin!". Not that that affects our calls or anything!

Since you are new, take the advice of us old timers. Don't ever call a T in this situation. You'll only create additional problems for yourself. The rule is old and archaic. I would expect that sooner or later, it will be removed.

You can rate this right up there with fisting the ball and multiple fouls. Leave it alone.

A no call clears this up much better than a T. Swallow your whistle, and see how fast he forgets acting class.

Just tell him one of the following:

"Hey - the Oscars are over."

"Get up. You look like a girl down there."

or, my personal favorite

"Save the drama for your mama."

What do you tell the defender during a girls' game?

Girls don't do this. They're too busy yelling, "Ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, I broke a nail, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball, ball!

Mark you hit the nail on the head - the girls yell that where you live, too? Whenever we play a team that does that I fell like I should say, "yes, its a ball - the same one we've been using for the past 30 minutes!"

I coach girls and I've never figured that one out! Like to find the peson who teaches that fundamental.

Well, I don't know if Pat Summitt started it, but the Lady Vols do it on defense.

I've got a no-call on the flop, or just wave for the player to get up.

BTW, I do call a violation for striking the ball with the fist. As a violation its not that big of a deal. (A T is a big deal.) Normally no one has control anyway....

Why is a T a big deal?They happen sometimes,probably with a heckuva lot more frequency than punched balls(insert joke here).T's are just another call you have to make if you feel it fits the situation.I'm like Todd-I've never officially seen a punched ball.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:09 AM]

I yell, "ball, ball, ball" when they forget to past the ball to a ref after the whistle is blown. Most times girls don't even hear me, so they don't pass the ball. Boys look at me sort of aghast or dumbfounded--and don't pass the ball.

I do a modified version of what rainmaker does. I usually just say "Ball, please". Seems to work for me.

A T in this situation is only asking for a lot of trouble down the road. Sure it is the "correct ruling" but I would have a really hard time calling something like that. Everything that I have ever been taught is to keep the game flowing as best you can. Not only does this stop the flow but you will hear from both coaches on every potential flop by the defense. Plus if I was the coach of the team rewarded by the T you would have lost all credibility with me. My next question would be did they gain an advantage? If no advantage, then did they put themselves in a disadvantage? If so, tough luck! Also maybe just maybe they didn't really want to take the charge and they chickened out. Would you stay in way of some 250 - 300lb guy when you don't get paid to?

This seems to be creeping into the boys game. Last week I
had one where 2 defenders moved in to trap the ball
yelling "dead dead dead". Well, the ball wasn't dead too
long cause A1 skipped to A2 who hit A3 under the basket.
No one complained about a broken nail but I did hear
coach B mutter "my head hurts" as I ran by.

i've coached both - boys never pass the ball!

I did a game last week where the point guard was close to 200 pounds and about 5'6". She was fast and ferocious on the dribble. I saw three different times when defenders stepped in to take the charge, and could have had it, but then stepped aside. She really did look like a freight train out of control, and it would have been a literal train wreck!!