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jimpiano Tue Mar 20, 2007 07:21pm

[QUOTE=socalreff]
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Originally Posted by MJT
I hoped to talk to him about the "rim hanging" at PT conferences 2nt, but he is his wife didn't get to me before we ran out of time. I think they just missed it as you do not watch that, but the contact of the player with the ball. You would see that Peripherally, and they just missed it.

The continuation on that one is a judgement call, and that means yours, mine, and theirs can and will be different. All I know is he is working a NCAA tournament game, and socalreff is an official who is questioning the integrity of great D1 officials, while sitting in his chair at home sounding more like a fan instead of a fellow official. You should know it is ok to question judgement, but an official questioning the integrity of an official at that high of a level should not happen. :(

Apparently socalreff has a tendency of questioning integrity.



I wasn't questioning the integrity of anybody. If that's the way it came across, I sincerely apologize to everyone and esp. the crew. I don't believe anyone at that level goes into a game with any bias whatsoever. I do think , however, that whenever possible for perception sake, it's good not to officiate the same team twice in the tournament. Officiating a team back to back would give officials more of a comfort level with one team as the offense and defense they're running is fresh in their mind. Therefore, I would surmise that the official would naturally be in better position on a higher percentage of plays when he knows what to expect. That's what I was trying to say.

SoCal


So you would advise against any official working a final four game coming back for the final?

Mark Dexter Tue Mar 20, 2007 08:48pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
So you would advise against any official working a final four game coming back for the final?

I can't answer for SoCal, but I believe this is prohibited by policy. All 10 Final Four officials (3 for each game, plus 1 alternate) are selected prior to the weekend starting, and each on-court ref only works one game. The alternate is present at all 3.

Mark Dexter Tue Mar 20, 2007 08:59pm

For those of you who are curious, the NCAA posts most of its championship handbook online:

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/cham...handbook/index

socalreff Wed Mar 21, 2007 09:54am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
I can't answer for SoCal, but I believe this is prohibited by policy. All 10 Final Four officials (3 for each game, plus 1 alternate) are selected prior to the weekend starting, and each on-court ref only works one game. The alternate is present at all 3.

You beat me to it. In the old days they were able to work both a semi and a final. But not anymore, in part due to what I mentioned.

socalreff Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by smoref
I remeber seeing in another thread that your favorite NCAA official is Chuck Gonzalez. He worked the The LSU game in the first and second round this year and I think he did a great job in both games.

Yes, he is a darn good official. I've had the pleasure of talking with him at camps and he is very down to earth.


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