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tomegun Fri Mar 16, 2007 09:53am

They say the dumbest things.
 
Since there are so many tournament games, many announcers/analysts are working that normally wouldn't be. Even though the normal guys really say some dumb stuff, these guys are trying to make their mark and are really raising the bar with idiotic comments.
Yesterday one of them was speaking about a fast guard and said something like, "He can go from zero to 60 in .1 (or point something) seconds." Is that the best thing you can come up with to describe a fast/quick player?

Did anyone else hear this or anything else stupid?

cmathews Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:06am

not that they don't
 
not that they don't say stupid things, but I am not buying that they have more than the norm group of morons assigned this week. On any given Saturday there are more games in more locations than right now. They may have more games, but they have 2 games per location don't they? So out of 16 games yesterday, at most there were 8 locations. How many Saturdays have you seen at least 8 different games televised?

rockyroad Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:26am

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Originally Posted by cmathews
not that they don't say stupid things, but I am not buying that they have more than the norm group of morons assigned this week. On any given Saturday there are more games in more locations than right now. They may have more games, but they have 2 games per location don't they? So out of 16 games yesterday, at most there were 8 locations. How many Saturdays have you seen at least 8 different games televised?

Right...but, they also have all the first round games today, so that's another group of announcers...and they aren't travelling, because the ones who announced yesterday have to be at the same location tomorrow...so there are more being used. Some of them yesterday were people I have never heard before - maybe because their games weren't televised out here during the season...anyway, it seemed that there were lots of wrong statements yesterday - announcing fouls on violation calls, or fouls on the wrong player, etc...lots of "Check that, the foul was actually on..." types of comments...got kind of annoying.

tjones1 Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:42am

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Originally Posted by tomegun
Since there are so many tournament games, many announcers/analysts are working that normally wouldn't be.

Like...Billy Packer? :D Oops, sorry.

On a side note, did anyone else see Diebler officiate a game then jump right into the booth to announce the second game?

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:02am

When it comes to rules Billy Packer is the Old School of announcers.

Of course, it's also true that when it comes to rules, Old School is the Billy Packer of officials.

cmathews Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:26am

oh wow we may have figured it out.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
When it comes to rules Billy Packer is the Old School of announcers.

Of course, it's also true that when it comes to rules, Old School is the Billy Packer of officials.

has anyone actually seen them in the same place at the same time, or sharing the same rule book??? HMMMMMMMM coincidence?? I think not LOL:D

rainmaker Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:44am

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Originally Posted by cmathews
has anyone actually seen them in the same place at the same time, or sharing the same rule book??? HMMMMMMMM coincidence?? I think not LOL:D

LOL!! Definitely the post of the week!

rockyroad Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:09pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
When it comes to rules Billy Packer is the Old School of announcers.

Of course, it's also true that when it comes to rules, Old School is the Billy Packer of officials.

ROFLMAO...

rainmaker Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:02pm

"It's not unusual for him to score above his average..."

well, duh!! He's gotta score above his average about half the time!

I know, not necessarily, but on the average, most players will play above their average about half the time... sheez...

cmathews Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:05pm

wow
 
yep you are right Juulie.....you know it would actually be pretty incredible to see a kid averaging 16.4 ppg to actually score right on his average wouldn't it LOL....

rainmaker Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by cmathews
yep you are right Juulie.....you know it would actually be pretty incredible to see a kid averaging 16.4 ppg to actually score right on his average wouldn't it LOL....

even one time hitting his exact average would be incredible!!

cmathews Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:14pm

well just maybe
 
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
even one time hitting his exact average would be incredible!!

maybe the kid scores 16 points, and the other team steals the ball at half court goes the wrong way, and lays it in, and rather than make a footnote in the book, they actually divide the 2 pts evenly among the 5 players on the floor at the time....

ChrisSportsFan Fri Mar 16, 2007 01:31pm

I think the OP was suggesting that there are more guys doing nationally publicized games who normally don't. Except for last year of course.

Yesterday, I only had games on in the background and didn't get to pay much attention so I didn't catch any "verbal violations" but I will listen up as it's always fun to yell at the TV and pretend the announcers can hear me.

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 16, 2007 08:59pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1
On a side note, did anyone else see Diebler officiate a game then jump right into the booth to announce the second game?

And he did all this while selling popcorn!!! :eek:

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 16, 2007 09:04pm

My favorite so far has been Billy Packer (at least I think it was Packer saying it - all the announcers blend together this time of year). Any time a guy picks up 2 fouls early in the game, or 3 before the half, he states that they HAVE to leave the game. With his conviction, he's all but saying that it's a rule that you have to sit once you reach a certain number of fouls with a certain time left - not that coaches pull players voluntarily.

rainmaker Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
My favorite so far has been Billy Packer (at least I think it was Packer saying it - all the announcers blend together this time of year). Any time a guy picks up 2 fouls early in the game, or 3 before the half, he states that they HAVE to leave the game. With his conviction, he's all but saying that it's a rule that you have to sit once you reach a certain number of fouls with a certain time left - not that coaches pull players voluntarily.

so you didn't hear, "Wendell White needs to come on the floor and expose himself". I think that's gotta be the new acme!

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:15pm

Billy Packer in the UK/Nova game:

"You can't be in the air and call a timeout. You can have posession and be falling out of bounds and call a timeout, but you can't call one if you're in the air." :confused:

Right sentiment, totally wrong application.

kmw Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:19pm

xavier game last night
 
Heard this comment: a good looking no look pass.... hmmmmm

Adam Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:33pm

Apparently radio announcers aren't immune to this, either. Don't know his name, but one guy referred to a "mysterious foul" call on a three point shot as a shot clock expired in the Illinois game. "Illinois played great defense for 34 seconds, and then a mysterious foul call gives the ball back to VA Tech in the corner."

jeffpea Sat Mar 17, 2007 01:59am

I know it's not the NCAA tourney...but during the broadcast of a quaterfinal game in the Illinois State High School Assoc. tourney, the color man said the following....."the Marshall coach has made a really smart decision to stay in the 'triangle and 3' defense".....since the coach figured out how to play w/ 6 defenders on the floor, I'd say he really is pretty smart...:)

RookieDude Sat Mar 17, 2007 09:18am

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Originally posted by tjones1
On a side note, did anyone else see Diebler officiate a game then jump right into the booth to announce the second game?

If this really happened...do you officials think this is something that is appropriate.

The reason I ask is...a few years ago, I was officiating at a State Tournament in Tacoma, WA. As I was walking by our local radio guy, he asked me if I wanted to do the game with him. He had an extra pair of headsets and was handing them to me. I just laughed and said, "no thanks...I better not."

It just didn't feel right. Possibly commenting/critiquing teams that I may be officiating later in the tournament.

Comments?

Jurassic Referee Sat Mar 17, 2007 09:42am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude
If this really happened...do you officials think this is something that is appropriate.

Dude, normal rules don't apply to Jon Diebler.

It's true, it's true.......

Adam Sat Mar 17, 2007 09:59am

Don't believe everything you read about Diebler. It's hard to separate the myth from the man.
Not that he didn't earn the myth with very hard work and high talent.

Scrapper1 Sat Mar 17, 2007 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude
It just didn't feel right. Possibly commenting/critiquing teams that I may be officiating later in the tournament.

Interesting!!! This happened just this year to a female official I know. She no longer works HS ball but was at the tournament to watch. The radio guy asked her to hop on for the broadcast. She accepted, but of course she was not going to work later in the tournament.

In your spot, Rook, I agree with your decision.

Adam Sat Mar 17, 2007 03:45pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Interesting!!! This happened just this year to a female official I know. She no longer works HS ball but was at the tournament to watch. The radio guy asked her to hop on for the broadcast. She accepted, but of course she was not going to work later in the tournament.

In your spot, Rook, I agree with your decision.

Back in Des Moines there are a couple of Major League Baseball umpires who do a radio show in the off season, "Ump's Eye View." Granted, they aren't doing play-by-play, but it wasn't uncommon for them to prognosticate on who they thought would be the better teams. They would also get a few players to come on as guests. My understanding was they had cleared the show through MLB, but I always wondered whether anyone thought there might be a conflict of interest (or appearance of one) with the guys making predictions on how the season would go.


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