A poll for my curiosity

[Adam]

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. The ball hits the rim and bounces back towards A1, who takes 4 steps before retrieving the ball. What's the ruling?

[rainmaker]

This is a "duh" for me, at least at the high school level. If it hits the rim, it's a try, team control ends, everything starts over.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

This is a "duh" for me, at least at the high school level. If it hits the rim, it's a try, team control ends, everything starts over.

Agreed. If I can legally let them play, I will.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Agreed. If I can legally let them play, I will.

If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, but let's be serious here it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, but let's be serious here it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

Apparently a lot more people are seriously disagreeing with you than are agreeing with you. It's running about 80-20 against you so far.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Apparently a lot more people are seriously disagreeing with you than are agreeing with you. It's running about 80-20 against you so far.

I can't believe that 77% of you are wrong.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, but let's be serious here it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

That's why I did the poll the way I did it; to see just how people would call it. I can leave the arguing for the other thread.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. The ball hits the rim and bounces back towards A1, who takes 4 steps before retrieving the ball. What's the ruling?

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

[DC_Ref12]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

It's a loaded scenario because you've already told us what A1's intent was. You don't have that luxury in the middle of the game.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12

It's a loaded scenario because you've already told us what A1's intent was. You don't have that luxury in the middle of the game.

And it was loaded in the OP...so whats the diff?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

How dare you come up with a logical counter example!

[Red_Killian]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

No way, it was a pass that ended up hitting the rim due to foul. I am not calling this a shot. But now if it goes in, count the 3 and shoot a free throw.

[Splute]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

I have to put it in the officials' hands to judge as per 4-41-2. First case I go no violation and keep playing; in Coach P case I call foul on B1, but I rule it a pass and not a TRY, dead ball. My judgement.....

[Adam]

You don't know that the foul didn't cause the ball to hit the rim. If the kid hits the rim on his own, then he can retrieve it. Look, I'm not saying he really tried to make a basket, I'm saying it's a grey area that I'm going to lean towards letting them play on.