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Adam Thu Feb 22, 2007 06:46pm

A poll for my curiosity
 
A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. The ball hits the rim and bounces back towards A1, who takes 4 steps before retrieving the ball. What's the ruling?

rainmaker Thu Feb 22, 2007 06:50pm

This is a "duh" for me, at least at the high school level. If it hits the rim, it's a try, team control ends, everything starts over.

Adam Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainmaker
This is a "duh" for me, at least at the high school level. If it hits the rim, it's a try, team control ends, everything starts over.

Agreed. If I can legally let them play, I will.

GoodwillRef Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Agreed. If I can legally let them play, I will.

If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, but let's be serious here it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, <font color = red>but let's be serious here</font> it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

Apparently a lot more people are <b>seriously</b> disagreeing with you than are agreeing with you. It's running about 80-20 against you so far.:)

Adam Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
If this kid shots every shot in a baseball pass motion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and call it a try, but let's be serious here it is a pass and nothing more. It is not a try, how many kids regularly shot 41 foot jumpers during the game....NONE (Unless the end of a period)! Sometimes we get really carried away here and argue just for the sake for or arguing.

That's why I did the poll the way I did it; to see just how people would call it. I can leave the arguing for the other thread. :)

GoodwillRef Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Apparently a lot more people are <b>seriously</b> disagreeing with you than are agreeing with you. It's running about 80-20 against you so far.:)


I can't believe that 77% of you are wrong.

tomegun Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
I can't believe that 77% of you are wrong.

Where is your smiley face? If you call this one, good luck!

SamIAm Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun
Where is your smiley face? If you call this one, good luck!

You are not suggesting we consider the coaches or crowds opinion are you?

CoachP Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. The ball hits the rim and bounces back towards A1, who takes 4 steps before retrieving the ball. What's the ruling?

Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

Adam Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:41pm

I didn't see any reference to coaches or crowds in his post. For me, it would be good luck with my assigner. I could probably get away with calling it once or twice (as if it's going to happen more than that), but not after we had a chat about it. :)

DC_Ref12 Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachP
Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

It's a loaded scenario because you've already told us what A1's intent was. You don't have that luxury in the middle of the game.

CoachP Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
It's a loaded scenario because you've already told us what A1's intent was. You don't have that luxury in the middle of the game.

And it was loaded in the OP...so whats the diff?

Camron Rust Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachP
Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

How dare you come up with a logical counter example! :)

Red_Killian Fri Feb 23, 2007 03:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachP
Lemme play devils advocate here. Sorry if this sitch has been discussed before. New details added to Snaq's sitch.

A1 dribbles up the the court, coming to a stop and stopping his dribble about 5 feet into his front court. He throws a baseball pass towards A2, who is standing in the lane near the basket. B1 fouls A1 on the arm on the throw. The ball hits the rim. What's the ruling? Popular vote here states "it hits the rim it's a try".

A1 shooting three free throws?

No way, it was a pass that ended up hitting the rim due to foul. I am not calling this a shot. But now if it goes in, count the 3 and shoot a free throw.


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