first 3-man

[mick]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

... So just go! We'll adjust if you have to go back.

Yeah, "Just go." Ha !

In "high C", I am really working a competitive matchup above free throw line extended and action moves 4 steps toward the baseline. [I've got another offensive player outside the arc in the corner and his defender has a foot in the lane.]

My matchup defender makes a quick steal [I am on this thing and see a clean pick] and stealer throws a quick pass to a streaking guy down the other side. So I am 2 steps below the Free Throw line extended and "Voila!", my New Lead had made me the New Trail.

Why? ..."Just went."

[Red_Killian]

Mick, but if the pass is to the guy streaking down the other side, your new C has that and was the old T so should be able to officiate that play to the basket. Also, if I get 2 steps below the free throw line as the C, I'm looking to get higher as soon as I can anyway.

I agree with those that say that new officials to 3-person do not rotate enough. Either by indecision or staying too wide, they miss good opportunities to rotate. Without proper rotations the benefits of 3-person are minimized.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mick

In "high C", I am really working a competitive matchup above free throw line extended and action moves 4 steps toward the baseline. [I've got another offensive player outside the arc in the corner and his defender has a foot in the lane.]

My matchup defender makes a quick steal [I am on this thing and see a clean pick] and stealer throws a quick pass to a streaking guy down the other side. So I am 2 steps below the Free Throw line extended and "Voila!", my New Lead had made me the New Trail.

Two things about this scenario, Mick.

1) If you've got the ball above the FT line with a matchup near the lane, then I'm rotating anyway. Whether we're using my "just go" mentality or not. That's a perfect recipe for a rotation, no? If the C has the ball and a second matchup, we should be rotating.

2) In this situation, if your Lead forces a rotation and you get caught behind the fast break, so what? Pull up and officiate it from the C position. How many times a game will this happen? If you get beat once, or even twice, a game, I don't see that as a big deal.

Just go!!

[mick]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Two things about this scenario, Mick.

1) If you've got the ball above the FT line with a matchup near the lane, then I'm rotating anyway. Whether we're using my "just go" mentality or not. That's a perfect recipe for a rotation, no? If the C has the ball and a second matchup, we should be rotating.

2) In this situation, if your Lead forces a rotation and you get caught behind the fast break, so what? Pull up and officiate it from the C position. How many times a game will this happen? If you get beat once, or even twice, a game, I don't see that as a big deal.

Just go!!

Yeah, ...I go.
My favorite partner has the "Look for a reason" mentality. I live with it, cuz I know he's coming, but I find it somewhat disruptive.
And it's not just me. There's often the other guy, who thought he was still Trail and I gotta tell ya, I don't like the look of two Leads.

[JRutledge]

I like the "reason to rotate" philosophy because I think it balances the floor much better. I also think if you are aware of where the ball is, you will not have many missed rotations. Then again, we work almost exclusively 3 Man at the levels I work. Many of the officials are very used to that philosophy which makes for a smoother understanding of these issues.

Peace

[mick]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I like the "reason to rotate" philosophy because I think it balances the floor much better. I also think if you are aware of where the ball is, you will not have many missed rotations. Then again, we work almost exclusively 3 Man at the levels I work. Many of the officials are very used to that philosophy which makes for a smoother understanding of these issues.

Peace

Rut,
You mean have a reason [like me] or make-up a reason. [Just go.]

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mick

Rut,
You mean have a reason [like me] or make-up a reason. [Just go.]

That might be a difference in the meaning of where you live. I mean that to find a reason. Meaning that do not allow the perfect situation to hold you back from rotations. I would rather over rotate than under rotate. Now of course I keep into account the team, the players and the situation, but I try not to rotate if there is no need like no post player on the block, team is right-handed or left handed or maybe a zone defense is being played.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mick

Yeah, ...I go.
My favorite partner has the "Look for a reason" mentality. I live with it, cuz I know he's coming, but I find it somewhat disruptive.
And it's not just me. There's often the other guy, who thought he was still Trail and I gotta tell ya, I don't like the look of two Leads.

You like the look of NO leads better??

If there is a mistake to be made, I'd lean towards two leads over none.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You like the look of NO leads better??

If there is a mistake to be made, I'd lean towards two leads over none.

Oh, yeah! Two Centers, and a Trail standing at the division line, looks butt ugly.

So, Camron, are you going just in anticipation or are you going cuz Center needs help ?