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mick Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
In my book it's overly-officious to report color, number foul at the spot in most cases.
I use color and number sometimes when one kid makes a good block and another defender fouls. I give color and number to ease the blocker's pain.

Also, I advise newer officials to get, and say, it [the color and the number] on the spot, as a memory aid so they won't forget, or misreport, or seem confused by the time they get to the table.

Rich Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I said you won't find it in the manual.

Oh yeah, as Scrappy says indicate the spot of the throw-in before going to report. Very important.
The only preliminary signals I give are (1) block and (2) team control. But I always give the throw-in spot or signal how many shots we're shooting.

More is not better, despite what the manual says.

Dan_ref Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by mick
Also, I advise newer officials to get, and say, it [the color and the number] on the spot, as a memory aid so they won't forget, or misreport, or seem confused by the time they get to the table.
Excellent point.

Never leave the area until you know the player's color & number. Also point out the shooter for your partner....but don't report the shooter as the fouler. ;) That's frowned upon, but you won't find that advize in the mechanics manual either.

Dan_ref Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by DC_Ref12
So why did you say it wasn't in the manual then?
Because I know what's in the manual without having to refer to it.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Feb 16, 2007 01:18pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Illegal screen = team control foul
Illegally fighting around the screen = push
Over the back = push

I don't normally say what the foul is at the table unless I need to communicate some other information like "hit him in the head" or pushed him outof bounds" That's more for the coach than the table. And you won't find that in the mechanics manual.

I'll also add there's no real need to give foul, color, number at the spot unless it's unusual situation, and you won't find that in the manual either.

You will find in the manual that you should indicate the number of shots at the location if the offended team is shooting.

Dan:

An illegal screen is usually blocking but could possibly be pushing; furthermore, if the illegal screen is by the defense it cannot be a team control foul.

MTD, Sr.

Dan_ref Fri Feb 16, 2007 01:31pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Dan:

An illegal screen is usually blocking but could possibly be pushing; furthermore, if the illegal screen is by the defense it cannot be a team control foul.

MTD, Sr.
Mark,

I'll agree a screen can be set by a defender and if illegal would be reported as a block.

I'll disagree that an illegal offensive screen is reported as a block. It is a team control foul and is reported as such. A team control foul, as you know, is penalized differently than the other common fouls.

tjones1 Fri Feb 16, 2007 02:30pm
You do both while reporting. Team-control signal and then the type of foul that was committed (block, push, etc.).

Dan_ref Fri Feb 16, 2007 02:40pm
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Originally Posted by tjones1
You do both while reporting. Team-control signal and then the type of foul that was committed (block, push, etc.).
No I don't. No reason to.

tjones1 Fri Feb 16, 2007 02:54pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
No I don't. No reason to.
So you just do both at the spot?

Dan_ref Fri Feb 16, 2007 03:03pm
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Originally Posted by tjones1
So you just do both at the spot?
Nope.

Blow whistle. Drop whistle. Point the other way. Point to spot.

Color, number, hand behind head or punch to table depending on what gym I'm in and say "illegal screen".


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