Stepping out of bounds

[howie719]

Is it just a violation or a T to step out of bounds to avoid a 3 sec call. I called a T for leaving the court. Did I blow this.

also

A1 shoots ball, B2 fouls A2 under basket for position. Ball goes in. I counted basket and gave A the ball out of bounds, not in bonus. Was this correct.

[Zack]

Originally Posted by howie719

Is it just a violation or a T to step out of bounds to avoid a 3 sec call. I called a T for leaving the court. Did I blow this.

Yes you did, this is a violation, not a T.

Originally Posted by howie719

A1 shoots ball, B2 fouls A2 under basket for position. Ball goes in. I counted basket and gave A the ball out of bounds, not in bonus. Was this correct.

That is correct, A's ball out of bounds.

[howie719]

Was there a time when leaving the court was a T?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by howie719

Was there a time when leaving the court was a T?

Yes. It was changed to a violation prior to the 2005-06 season.

[Nevadaref]

Howie,
You unfortunately went by the old rule. The new ruling is as follows:

PLAYER OUT OF BOUNDS – LEAVING THE COURT
9.3.2 SITUATION A: A1 receives a pass while in the restricted area of the lane. A1 passes the ball to A2 outside the three-point line. In order to get the three-second count stopped, A1 steps directly out of bounds under A's basket. RULING: A1 is charged with a violation for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason. (9-7)

As Hawkeye mentioned the penalty was a technical foul back in the 2004-05 season and prior.

[justshutup]

On same try, B is whislted for throwing elbows, a violation while shot is in air. I believe play is whistled dead, no goal, and A's ball at pt. of interruption.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by justshutup

On same try, B is whislted for throwing elbows, a violation while shot is in air. I believe play is whistled dead, no goal, and A's ball at pt. of interruption.

Almost--POI is not the correct restart of play. The game is resumed with a throw-in at the OOB spot nearest to where the excessive elbow swinging violation occurred.

SWINGING ARM(S) OR ELBOW(S)
9.13.1 SITUATION: The ball has been released on a field-goal try or tap by A1 towards A's basket: (a) A2, or (b) B1, excessively swings arm(s) or elbow(s) without contacting an opponent. The ball goes through the basket. RULING: In (a), the official will sound the whistle immediately for a violation. The ball is dead, the goal is not scored. In (b), the ball is dead when the try ends. The goal is scored and Team A is awarded a throw-in at the spot closest to the violation. (6-7-9 Exception d)


POI is very specific rule and only applies in certain situations. It is defined as follows:
RULE 4
SECTION 36 POINT OF INTERRUPTION
ART. 1 . . . Method of resuming play due to an official's accidental whistle, an interrupted game, as in 5-4-3, a correctable error, as in 2-10-6, a double personal, double technical or simultaneous foul, as in 4-19-8 and 4-19-10.
ART. 2 …Play shall be resumed by one of the following:
a. A throw-in to the team that was in control at a spot nearest to where the ball was located when the stoppage occurred.
b. A free throw or a throw-in when the stoppage occurred during this activity or if a team is entitled to such.
c. An alternating-possession throw-in when the point of interruption is such that neither team is in control and no goal, infraction, nor end of quarter/extra period is involved.

[justshutup]

Stand corrected on spot. Thanks, but interesting how a foul and viloation are handled differently.
Who sits home and dreams up all this stuff. must have great life.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by justshutup

Stand corrected on spot. Thanks, but interesting how a foul and viloation are handled differently.
Who sits home and dreams up all this stuff. must have great life.

How are they handled differently with regard to the throw-in spot? Either way, it's at the spot closest to the infraction.

[Nevadaref]

I think he means that for the foul by A2 the basket still counts, but for a violation by A2 the ball is dead and the basket doesn't count.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by justshutup

On same try, B is whislted for throwing elbows, a violation while shot is in air. I believe play is whistled dead, no goal, and A's ball at pt. of interruption.

If A has shot before B violates, the basket counts. If B violates during a shot by a teammate, then you cancel the shot.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If A has shot before B violates, the basket counts. If B violates during a shot by a teammate, then you cancel the shot.

Yeah, it wasn't clear to me whether he was using B as a teammate or an opponent who was violating, so I just posted the case play that covered both situations for him.