6 on the floor!!!

[Nate1224hoops]

I was in attendance the other night (only watching) a Varsity girls game. In the first quarter the home team made a subsitution. The C blows whistle and bekons player in. Well she obviously forgot to tell the other player that she was out. C point to T and T administers the ball. Ball was in play for maybe 3 seconds. Meanwhile the home coach is screaming at his player. She comes running off just as the ball passes half court. She ran off right in front of the T. Vistiing coach is histerical. T turns and says "I didnt see it." Coach replies "you have to be kidding." Trail T's the visiting coach.

My question is this: How can you overlook something like this? All 3 officials had to see that 6 players were on the court. If they didn't they must have heard the home coach yelling. The result the law abiding vistiors coach gets T'ed. Do you cut a team any slack for having 6 players on the floor? As officials we are supposed to make sure that subs enter and exit the game properly.

[Ignats75]

I was doing a game last month with a sick partner. He was struggling the whole game I could tell. Home trails a much better team by 2 with about :45 left. Coming out of a timeout, V were inbounding on baseline under their basket. In this situation, I normally will visibly count the players and signal my partner 10. I do it visibly so he knows that is what I am doing and will wait until I signal. This time, for some reason, I wasn't pointing. I was just counting silently. Of course, this is the one time that 6 players come out of the home team's huddle!!!! 3 seconds in, and I notice the situation and blow my whistle. Visitors coach looks at and smiles and says "that is a technical foul." Well, any hope I had that I was the only one in the gym to know that just went out the window so I issued the T. Home coach was good about it. Proving that the basketball gods are just, the V shooter missed both free throws and they turned the ball over with about :25 left!!!!. Home came down and just missed a three at the buzzer.

I wasn't happy with my partner for inbounding the ball without looking at me, but blamed myself to varsity referees after the game, saying I didn't communicate correctly with my partner. A good lesson.

[buckrog64]

Been there, done that....administering official, someone I enjoy working with and trust, gives the ball for a throw-in with six on the floor for one team and I have to be the bad guy for giving the 'whack.' I've come to the conclusion that this is a situation that should simply never happen. Count and count again and be sure you have no more than ten. One more pitfall avoided.

[eyezen]

but counting to ten can get you in trouble too.

Count 5 vs 5

[Ignats75]

Well duh!?!. If I signal ten, just how do you think I do it? I hold up ten fingers. Do you think I have six on one hand and four on the other?

[Eastshire]

I had this happen to me in a girl's sophmore game last week. My partner called for the sub and signaled to me we were ready to go with 6 players on the floor. I didn't see the sixth player until I had handed the ball to the thrower. I killed it before the ball was thrown in, but in reality we should have had the T for 6 players. It was totally our fault. We didn't actually call the T but this game was already a blow out.

Do you count the players for yourself or do you trust your partner to do it?

[stmaryrams]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Well duh!?!. If I signal ten, just how do you think I do it? I hold up ten fingers. Do you think I have six on one hand and four on the other?

It could happen. Who's the pitcher, Alfonseca? with 6 fingers

Actually had a similar situation on Saturday. Last 28 seconds, Coach of the home team is clearing his bench. Inbounding from spot in front of his bench. I have 5 of each on the floor, give partner the thumbs up and he bounces the ball to player. They inbound the ball and about 3 seconds go off when one of the home players runs onto the floor and another runs off. "T"

We also had 3 other "T's" in the game when a player pushed another in the back while going up for the layup on a breakaway. Partner had intentional foul, then two players mouth off to each other both earning a "T". Moments later I hit the Assistant Coach for one. We shoot the Intentional foul and then the bench technical. Everybody was happy.

[grunewar]

Had a B12 rec league game this weekend where the coach called to his subs to get ready to go in......and they just ran onto the court in the middle of the play. Two of em! Tweet. T! Coach was up by a bunch and we had a good laugh over it.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Nate1224hoops

I was in attendance the other night (only watching) a Varsity girls game. In the first quarter the home team made a subsitution. The C blows whistle and bekons player in. Well she obviously forgot to tell the other player that she was out. C point to T and T administers the ball. Ball was in play for maybe 3 seconds. Meanwhile the home coach is screaming at his player. She comes running off just as the ball passes half court. She ran off right in front of the T. Vistiing coach is histerical. T turns and says "I didnt see it." Coach replies "you have to be kidding." Trail T's the visiting coach.

My question is this: How can you overlook something like this? All 3 officials had to see that 6 players were on the court. If they didn't they must have heard the home coach yelling. The result the law abiding vistiors coach gets T'ed. Do you cut a team any slack for having 6 players on the floor? As officials we are supposed to make sure that subs enter and exit the game properly.

I always count players during all dead balls, especially during substitutions. Even if I am the off official. If I am the one administering the throw in, I also count again. There is no excuse to allow this to happen. It a great pregame topic also.