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scottk_61 Wed Feb 07, 2007 02:57pm

Here we go, cops investigate game film
 
Take a look at the link below to see what the game is coming to in some areas.
http://www.newsnet5.com/akroncanton/...82/detail.html

Watch the video and see what you think.
I had to quit working the games due to health reasons but still follow what is happening out there.
I am a proponent of returning the sport to a non-contact sport as it was designed instead of the current thinking of "they will have to play like that in college"

Just wanted some input from you guys to see what you think about the whole thing.

BTW, I think having the cops investigate a game really ruins the games. It is the officials who need to be making the rulings on the court and taking the appropriate actions.

Talk about taking the game out of the kids hands..........sheesh.

PYRef Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:04pm

It's kind of hard to see the shot to the face from this video so I think it would be difficult for the police to make a determination of the intent. What is pretty obvious is the opponent he threw down to the floor before going up for the rebound. He should have had an intentional for that one. :)

Junker Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:07pm

Ridiculous! Watching the video, without sound (I have students in the room) it looks like the white player got called for the big swim move on the rebound early. After that, the kid that took the shot to the eye came running in after the ball and caught an elbow incidentally. Certainly a bad situation, but students run that risk when they step on the court. The officials had nothing to do with the injury, it is just an unfortunate part of the game at times.

deecee Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:08pm

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BTW, I think having the cops investigate a game really ruins the games. It is the officials who need to be making the rulings on the court and taking the appropriate actions.
what do you say to a kid who sucker punches another from behind and causes serious injury and only gets ejected from the game? is that punishment enough? I think assault is a good addition as well -- our laws shouldnt be put on hold for the excuse that its a game and the officials will police what happens on the court.

Junker Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:17pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
what do you say to a kid who sucker punches another from behind and causes serious injury and only gets ejected from the game? is that punishment enough? I think assault is a good addition as well -- our laws shouldnt be put on hold for the excuse that its a game and the officials will police what happens on the court.

There's no assult here. Its just an overprotective mom getting her nose out of joint because her 7 foot baby got an owie. The only part about the play that was bad was the initial swim move that a foul was called on, at least from what I saw on the video.

deecee Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:24pm

i didnt say for this instance -- this seems like it was just an inadvertant injury of sport -- i was responding to the cops should never investigate. it happens on the pro level too.

Ignats75 Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:27pm

I haven't seen the video yet...but this incident happened about an hour down the road from me and its been all over the internet and radio and TV. THe big complaint is that the video seems to show a closed fist. Does anyone else see this?

SamIAm Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by scottk_61
Take a look at the link below to see what the game is coming to in some areas.

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BTW, I think having the cops investigate a game really ruins the games. It is the officials who need to be making the rulings on the court and taking the appropriate actions.

Talk about taking the game out of the kids hands..........sheesh.

I can tell little from the video, it is too dark from here.

You are incorrect concerning cops investigating the game (because they are not). If the potential offense (in police terms) merits investigation on the street, then it merits investigation on the court.

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:41pm

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Originally Posted by Junker
There's no assult here.

It's important to note that while you make this judgement from an official's perspective, it's entirely possible that a court of law could come to a completely seperate, yet equally correct judgement.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
It's important to note that while you make this judgement from an official's perspective, it's entirely possible that a court of law could come to a completely seperate, yet equally correct judgement.

I don't normally do this, but I'll make an exception in your case

Separate.

Carry on.

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:09pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I don't normally do this, but I'll make an exception in your case

Separate.

Carry on.

Heck, as long as we're nitpicking spelling, we might as well go for punctuation to boot. You need a period at the end of your first sentence there, tiger.

Junker Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
It's important to note that while you make this judgement from an official's perspective, it's entirely possible that a court of law could come to a completely seperate, yet equally correct judgement.

You are absolutely correct.

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:16pm

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Originally Posted by Junker
You are absolutely correct.

Concordingly, and at the behest of another wise poster, I would like to thank you for that information.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
Heck, as long as we're nitpicking spelling, we might as well go for punctuation to boot. You need a period at the end of your first sentence there, tiger.


Why? <b> </b>

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Why? <b> </b>

Your post implied some sort of inherent set of rules on this board in regards to spelling...that we are to be corrected for the improper execution of it...I naturally assumed that ran the gammut of all areas of grammar and punctuation.

I could be wrong though. Pray tell, are we solely forbidden from slip-ups in spelling, or are we to be on watch for violations in punctuation, grammar and sentence structure as well?

I thank you for your information.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
Your post implied some sort of inherent set of rules on this board in regards to spelling...that we are to be corrected for the improper execution of it...I naturally assumed that ran the gammut of all areas of grammar and punctuation.

I could be wrong though. Pray tell, are we solely forbidden from slip-ups in spelling, or are we to be on watch for violations in punctuation, grammar and sentence structure as well?

I thank you for your information.

Lots of words there rook.

I can't see where you explain why I'm actually missing a period.

Junker Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Lots of words there rook.

I can't see where you explain why I'm actually missing a period.

Geez Dan, maybe you should have used protection? Have you seen the doctor yet? Sorry, but that was on a platter and someone with a low-brow sense of humor needed to say it. :D

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Lots of words there rook.

I can't see where you explain why I'm actually missing a period.

I see.

"Properly" structured sentences end with punctuation. Yours did not.

Now, are you gonna (sic) set some ground rules up for me or what?

CLH Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:30pm

Are you freaking kidding me? White 23 commits a hard smim move, looks like they got that one. The rebound? Incidental contact, yeah it was hard, but geez come on mom. He's a big boy, he wanted to play, this kinda crap happens. By rule that type of incidental contact is to be ignored unless intentional or flagrant, this (in my opinion) isn't. Get him some ice, take him to the doctor tomorrow, whine about it with the other psycho fans. Leave the cops alone to catch the real criminals, not the ones who set up late nights, writeing by candle light, looking at the moon and laughing with their best Dr. Evil cackle, plotting their revenge in the next Catholic school basketball game because of a "previous incident."

CLH

Junker Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:32pm

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Originally Posted by CLH
Are you freaking kidding me? White 23 commits a hard smim move, looks like they got that one. The rebound? Incidental contact, yeah it was hard, but geez come on mom. He's a big boy, he wanted to play, this kinda crap happens. By rule that type of incidental contact is to be ignored unless intentional or flagrant, this (in my opinion) isn't. Get him some ice, take him to the doctor tomorrow, whine about it with the other psycho fans. Leave the cops alone to catch the real criminals, not the ones who set up late nights, writeing by candle light, looking at the moon and laughing with their best Dr. Evil cackle, plotting their revenge in the next Catholic school basketball game because of a "previous incident."

CLH

Exactly what I saw and I'm having a good day on the board. Ignats even called one of my posts "the best advice". I'm still beaming. :D

Dan_ref Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
I see.

"Properly" structured sentences end with punctuation. Yours did not.

Now, are you gonna (sic) set some ground rules up for me or what?

Which group of words are you inferring is a sentence?

And what lead you to that conclusion?

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Which group of words are you inferring is a sentence?

And what lead you to that conclusion?

Eye C. Sew apparantlee their R know roolz.

Kool.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 07, 2007 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
Eye C. Sew apparantlee their R know roolz.

Kool.


That's your answer, eh?

You talk a good game rook but you're only a lightweight.

Not surprised, but still disappointed.

Later, gotta go do something with the ignore function.

As a parting gift here's a bunch of periods, put them wherever you like
...............................

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Later, gotta go do something with the ignore function.

Thanks. This would be a big favor since I can't seem to locate mine right now. You're saving me a lot of trouble and for that I am thankful.

mplagrow Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco
Your post implied some sort of inherent set of rules on this board in regards to spelling...that we are to be corrected for the improper execution of it...I naturally assumed that ran the <font color=red>gammut</font> of all areas of grammar and punctuation.


Actually, the word you're looking for is gamut.

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:33pm

Okay, we have had Mr. Annoying Spelling Guy and Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy. Is there now a Mr. Annoying Punctuation Guy?
:eek:


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