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Zoochy Tue Feb 06, 2007 01:25pm

Personal foul then Double 'T'
 
Team A is in the Bonus. Arrow favors Team A. A1 gets fouled by B1 (Personal Foul). A1 and B1 'Jaw Jack' each other then push each other (Double Technical). The fouls get enforced in the order they occured. Since no one was ejected nor fouled out of the game, A1 shoots the Free Throw(s). Play resumes via POI. Ball OOB at the spot of the last fouls.
Who gets the ball and why???:D

Scrapper1 Tue Feb 06, 2007 01:28pm

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Originally Posted by Zoochy
Since no one was ejected nor fouled out of the game, A1 shoots the Free Throw(s). Play resumes via POI. Ball OOB at the spot of the last fouls.

This isn't correct. The POI is the FTs for the common foul. Line up, shoot 'em and play the make or miss.

Zoochy Tue Feb 06, 2007 09:33pm

:eek: Oops.... My brain was just mush at that point of the Freshman girls game. 6 seconds left in a lop sided game. Partner made call and proceedure. I just wanted to get out of there, so I went along. We never really discussed the play. I knew things were not right. Now I am a better official.:)

Texas Aggie Tue Feb 06, 2007 09:48pm

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6 seconds left in a lop sided game
Ever heard the term, situational ethics? Situational rules (and mechanics) apply during this time.

However, it is good you clear it up in your mind for when it does matter.

Bernie Beckerman Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:26pm

If two players jaw each other and then push each other, I have a double ejection (flagrant fouls on each). In this situation I would not have hesitated to make that call.

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:32am

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
Ever heard the term, situational ethics? Situational rules (and mechanics) apply during this time.

However, it is good you clear it up in your mind for when it does matter.

Ever heard of the term, consistent officiating? That should apply all game long.

Call 'em the same all game. And <b>never</b> ignore 2 players yapping and pushing each other.

That's Old School advice imo.

Nevadaref Wed Feb 07, 2007 06:14am

Scrapper gave you the correct POI.

My comment is that I am amazed because I have never seen two players "'Jaw Jack' each other then push each other" in a "Freshman girls game." ;)

Not saying that it couldn't happen, but how many people experience discipline problems working games involving 14 year-old girls? :D


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