Liability Issue @ Ortonville

[GreeneFam]

Just for the record, I am a woman, LOL. Not that it should make a difference as Garth pointed out, but I keep being referred to as "HE."

No, I did not pull my son out of the game as a PP asked. Maybe I should have, looking back now... I am just grateful nothing bad happened.

Thanks again to the few posters who have pointed out that I was indeed correct to be concerned since "Michigan requires all officials to be registered to officiate any high school basketball games."

Someone also asked what our coach thought about the situation, obviously we didn't talk to him directly about it until later, and he said he was pretty surprised that they chose to use unregistered officials. He also said that several days later the school's Varsity Coach called him personally to apologize saying he couldn't believe it when he heard what had happened and assured him that it was not indicative of how their program is usually run....

And again, I know they were uninsured, unregistered officials because we asked the school's principal and athletic director about it and they admitted it. I assure you this is not a hoax! I am LOL'ing at "Johnny Ringo" who is as dumfounded as we were. There were a few girls (sorry Garth, but they were GIRLS) sitting together in the corner of the gym, and the athletic director went over and asked one to ref. I dont know if maybe she was more familiar with basketball then the rest of the students in the gym, or if simply he needed a "body" to fill in, but she was there.

Please refer to our schedule (Rochester) on our school's website to see that the game on the date in question DID happen. I think the JV and Varsity teams might have been playing at Lapeer that night, but Freshman were not. I might have been mistaken on the price of admission --- was it $3?? Maybe ... but the fact is, we did paid to get in, we did play a game at that gym, the official were female, and they were NOT registered.
http://www.rochester.k12.mi.us/index...1950&name=Boys Basketball

Thanks again for all your comments...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GreeneFam

Just for the record, I am a woman, LOL. Not that it should make a difference as Garth pointed out, but I keep being referred to as "HE."

For the record, you being a woman does not preclude you from having a problem with a woman in an authority situation. It is often the very people that have a problem with women in authority are often other women. It is not like women are not raised in similar environments as men and share many of the same sexist views as men.

I have no idea if that is an issue with you, but I did think you focused a lot on the fact that you had female officials. Why that was I have no idea.

Peace

[Johnny Ringo]

Well, dumbfounded indeed. In my 18 years I have never seen a female sub teacher come out of the stands and a JV volleyball player grab a whistle. Not saying it can't happen, but to quote a line from the 1993 movie Tombstone:

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Texas Jack: You ever seen somethin' like that before?
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: Hell, I never even heard of something like that.

[GreeneFam]

LMAO!! That's why it was such a bizarre situation! We were just looking at each other like, "Is this happening?" I dont know... maybe it was because it was "just" a 9th grade game. Whatever... I am over it now. I stumbled across this message board while searching the Michigan High School Athletic Association websites regarding officiating rules, and thought I'd post to see what you all thought.

And I just have to laugh at the notion that you are all assuming I have problems with women in authority. I AM a woman in authority! I could care less if the refs were women or men. (We have several women refs in our league.) Again, it was the unregistered, uninsured, under-aged part that struck a cord with me.

Thanks everyone.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GreeneFam

And I just have to laugh at the notion that you are all assuming I have problems with women in authority. I AM a woman in authority! I could care less if the refs were women or men. (We have several women refs in our league.) Again, it was the unregistered, uninsured, under-aged part that struck a cord with me.

Thanks everyone.

Once again, there are some that would say that women tend to have more problems with other women than they do with men. Just because you are in an authority position does not take away that you "could" have such an issue. Just by the fact that you seemed to question her qualifications says something to me.

Peace

[jmaellis]

Originally Posted by GreeneFam

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And I just have to laugh at the notion that you are all assuming I have problems with women in authority. I AM a woman in authority! I could care less if the refs were women or men. (We have several women refs in our league.) Again, it was the unregistered, uninsured, under-aged part that struck a cord with me.

Thanks everyone.

And the five or so seperate references to the "female" referees.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by GreeneFam

Just for the record, I am a woman, LOL. Not that it should make a difference as Garth pointed out, but I keep being referred to as "HE."

No, I did not pull my son out of the game as a PP asked. Maybe I should have, looking back now... I am just grateful nothing bad happened.

So let's look at it this way:

At the time no one, including you, felt the players were in any danger.

Hindsight is 20-20 and all that happy bullsh1t...but if you felt your own son was safe that's good enough for me.

Let it go. There may come a day when you have absolutely zero say in what danger your son may face.

Let it go.

[Rusty Gilbert]

I wonder if GreeneFam's son's team won or lost the game?

And did that have anything to do with the subsequent email's and conversations about the officials and their lack of credentials?

Just curious....