Jurassic Referee

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Add to that the fact that the SEC has been responsible for some of the worst screwups recently in NCAA basketball and that completes the argument that the SEC is not superior sort that refTN claimed.

Examples of the SEC screwups:
Brian Enterline's "do-over" in an SEC women's game.
The 3 vs. 2 pt shot video review in the Alabama game.

:wtf:

You do realize that officials that work the SEC often work ...wait for it...other leagues as well, don't you.

Are you claiming that all officials are guilty of some of the worst screw-ups in recent history? Or are you saying there's something about the SEC that causes officials who normally do not screw up to suddenly become near-human?

Or exactly wtf are you saying?

[Nevadaref]

I'm saying that the screwups happened in SEC games by officials on the SEC staff. That's all.

Yes, I know that NCAA officials often work for multiple conferences. They also work for different supervisors, who sometimes give them different instructions/philosophies on how to call the game in a particular conference.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'm saying that the screwups happened in SEC games by officials on the SEC staff. That's all.

Yes, I know that NCAA officials often work for multiple conferences. They also work for different supervisors, who sometimes give them different instructions/philosophies on how to call the game in a particular conference.

So you're actually saying the SEC trains their officials to screw up.

Interesting. Why would they do this?

[Nevadaref]

Obviously, no conference would desire that their officials screwup. Some may spend more time with training instruction than others though. Some may emphasize management skills, some youth, some looks, mechanics, and physique.
My point is that the SEC officials are no better than those who work for any other conference. Their recent glaring mistakes make it impossible to state that they are.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Obviously, no conference would desire that their officials screwup. Some may spend more time with training instruction than others though. Some may emphasize management skills, some youth, some looks, mechanics, and physique.
My point is that the SEC officials are no better than those who work for any other conference. Their recent glaring mistakes make it impossible to state that they are.

OK, so this is what I take away based on out dialogue:

we agree that officials that work SEC also work other conferences

you claim the SEC is responsible for some of the worst screw-ups recently (*your words*).

youstate that some conferences emphasise looks while others are concerned with training (*your words*).

I can only infer that you believe the SEC concerns themselves with looks at the expense of training which leads to their recent screw-ups.

Am I wrong? If so what do you wish to retract?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

OK, so this is what I take away based on out dialogue:

we agree that officials that work SEC also work other conferences

you claim the SEC is responsible for some of the worst screw-ups recently (*your words*).

youstate that some conferences emphasise looks while others are concerned with training (*your words*).

I can only infer that you believe the SEC concerns themselves with looks at the expense of training which leads to their recent screw-ups.

Am I wrong? If so what do you wish to retract?

Prior to the removal of Gutherie and the resulting change that took place in the SEC over the investment scandal, I did have exactly that opinion of the SEC.

I don't wish to retract anything.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Prior to the removal of Gutherie and the resulting change that took place in the SEC over the investment scandal, I did have exactly that opinion of the SEC.

I don't wish to retract anything.

errr...which opinion? You saying Gutherie screwed up the conference by the way he handled the officials? And now it's better?

Or the other way around?

btw, we all know that "scandals" as reported in the press are often just reputation killers... have there been any convictions that you know of?