What Is Wrong With Coaches
 

As you all know I am still in highschool, and well I have sorta been the goto guy if you will the day after games with kids comming to me asking about diffrent situations that happened and why they were called like they were. Well today the Varsity coach came to me and asked me to come sit on the bench for Friday nights game against a rival. When I asked why he said he wanted to be able to quickly ask me about situations so if the "refs blew it he could inform them politly" I quickly told him there was no way in hell I was sitting on his bench for this reason. I can just see where this is going, and it was not headed down a good path. Guess I'll be in the stands watching the refs work as usually happens.
Does this happen any where else that you know of? It is just so stupid.

I'm glad you didn't let him sucker you in. You would have been in a no-win situation.

I do have a friend that is still an official but runs the official scorebook for the school his daughter graduated from (she is playing a D1 program now) when he is in town and not officiating. He would tell the coach in so many words when to not complain because the official knew what they were talking about. I also know they would talk often about calls and situation. It did help the coach out and he would realize when to let something go. Now I am not suggesting you do that, but it is not a first to have some advice from a coach. I do not know if you should sit on the bench, but I would not have a problem with talking to a coach every now and then if I am not going to work their games.

Peace

I'm disappointed in you my young friend.

You can charge him a game fee and just say "they got it right" whenever he comes to you with a question. If they didn't get it right you just say you didn't see the play.

And use your time on the bench productively...like talking up that cute cheerleader you've had your eye on... "yeah, I'm like a consultant to the coach. He needs me here to help him out with the rules. But I'm sure I'm not getting paid as much as you are...what's that? You don't get paid?...oh. Anyway, what are you doing later?"

:p

Good choice, fonzzy07.

Attaboy !

Hand him your rule/case books and say "have a nice day.."

I like Dan's response.

You gotta get your hustle on. :D

Peace

We'll get him moving in the right direction.

:D

Well Ladies are not a problem, but it would not be a bad idea.

I did not say it was a problem, it is another option. Man I wish I knew then what I know now. ;)

Peace

Don't we all . . .

I'm sure I'd have ended up in waaaaay too much trouble if I knew then what I know now :cool:

I would have got into more trouble and been able to talk my way out of more trouble if I knew then what I know now. Basically, more fun would have been had for all! :D

All the Cave Girls would have been in Trouble!:D

There is a Catholic School around here that has a "big-time":rolleyes: official that sits behind the home bench and critiques the work of the officials for the coaches (JV & Varsity). It was mentioned at an Association meeting but this guy is well connected, so nothing was done about it.

Nothing like throwing your brothers (& sisters) under the bus.:mad:

Sure there is. It's worse to actually let someone throw you under the bus.

I don't know if it's worse or not, but I do know that the first time that official said something loud enough for me to overhear, he's be escorted from the gym.

Then I assume that your games have very few fans left by game end....

Well, you know what happens when you assume. We're not talking about "fans". We're talking about an established official from your local association who is making disparaging comments about the officials on the floor.

So, care to re-think your assumption?

and arent you "assuming" all of that description from the words "big time official?". He could be a D-1 , not a HS ref.....thats how I took it. (and yes, if it was a local official w/an off night, then I agree w/you)

Are you saying that if it was a D1 official that was dumping on the officials, it would be OK? If so, that's just completely ridiculous imo. Publically crapping on your fellow officials is just plain <b>wrong</b>, no matter <b>who</b> is doing it. It's unprofessional as hell and should <b>never</b> be tolerated.

If he wants to "critique" officials, it should be done to the official's' face and it should be done in a positive, teaching manner. Anything else is unacceptable. Shame on that official's association for letting him get away with crap like that!

Completely ridiculous and unprofessional - if this guy's D-1 material, sounds like he should be on a plane to his next series of games, not watching HS ball. We are fortunate to have ref who made it in D-1 and we don't ever see him at any of the local games. We don't expect him to be there as well. If he was, he would only come in after the game intro himself, (leaving out all the D-1 stuff) and probably mention, 'nice job tonight, guys.'

As it should be. If I know the guy's an official, then mostly likely everyone else there does, too. If he's showing us up, then he's inciting the coach and/or fans. I'll have him escorted out and we'll hash it out at the next association meeting if he's got the stones to show up.

I don't give a damn what level he calls in. If he makes remarks about officials on the floor that are working, then he is breaking one of most important rules of officiating. No matter what level you work, we should all be considered a fraternity. There aren't a lot of people that would go through the mess that we do day in and day out. One of our own should not be trying to undermind the job that is being done on the court. It is just highly un-professional, if you ask me.

Of course I agree, that another official making negative comments are wrong, ----I was addressing the comment about making him leave the gym. You would just have to ignore it during the game....

Strongly disagree.

Without pontificating, me too.