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Larks Sun Jan 21, 2007 02:59pm

The Hand
 
http://www.fatguysports.com/hand.jpg

We've all done it right? It was taught to me at camps actually. But I am hearing a new school of thought that the hand actually ticks the recipient off more than it does make your point that you've had enough.

If you give the hand - are you in a box that you have to T when he blows by it?

Do you give the hand?

Discuss

ocreferee Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:13pm

Here we go again...
 
I'm sure Tomegun will take care of your question. He'll be along shortly.

Terrapins Fan Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:22pm

Hand
 
I have never given " The Hand". But I make it clear when I have had enough...

tomegun Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:40pm

:rolleyes: Just look at the signature dude.

MJT Sun Jan 21, 2007 04:30pm

I coach, and officiate, and as a coach, I like the hand cuz then I know if I go further I am warrented if I get a T. Therefore, as an official, I will give it for that very reason.

Ref Daddy Sun Jan 21, 2007 04:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks
http://www.fatguysports.com/hand.jpg

We've all done it right? It was taught to me at camps actually. But I am hearing a new school of thought that the hand actually ticks the recipient off more than it does make your point that you've had enough.

If you give the hand - are you in a box that you have to T when he blows by it?

Do you give the hand?

Discuss

Take a look at the two players visable in the picture. I see anticipation of what's coming next with their coach blowing a gasket.

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 21, 2007 04:51pm

The "hand" is just a non-verbal warning, , same as a stop sign. If you're not going to follow up on <b>any</b> warning, be it verbal or otherwise, there's no use in using any of them in the first place imo.

mplagrow Sun Jan 21, 2007 08:35pm

But what we can't tell from the picture, what we couldn't possibly see, is did the ref say, "Talk to the HAND cuz the face don't understand!"

blindofficial Mon Jan 22, 2007 02:20am

Persoanlly, I think it all depends on the situation. If you just blew a call and you know it, be prepared and understand that you deserve to take some flack.

Also, I don't think "the hand" should come up just because the coach says one thing to you. I think patience is a key and what is said is how you can measure it.

Teigan Mon Jan 22, 2007 03:14am

Quote:

But what we can't tell from the picture, what we couldn't possibly see, is did the ref say, "Talk to the HAND cuz the face don't understand
!"

I don't think its a matter of the face not understanding......I just think the face does not care;)

Official99 Mon Jan 22, 2007 07:32am

I prefer to call it the "stop sign." Calling it the hand, just sounds like some school girl fight and one girl is whisking her body around to tell the other girl off... anyways, I think the stop sign works. I don't use it often because I try to difuse the problem before it gets to that point.

I've only used it once this season in a BV Prep game, coach was yelling and yelling and yelling about a call my partner made. I walked over, answered the only legit question he had and walked away. He called time out to keep yelling at me, I gave him the "stop sign" and he turned around and coached his players... it worked.

REFVA Mon Jan 22, 2007 08:39am

I've tried a couple of time this year and had different affects from the hand. One time the coach knew it was enough. The second time the coach got embarrassed and continue until my partner just had enough and popped him one. I think it all depends on the situation.

BLydic Mon Jan 22, 2007 08:48am

IMO, whether the "stop sign" works or not is irrelevant. You've shown everyone in the gym (including the video) that you have had enough.

ChrisSportsFan Mon Jan 22, 2007 01:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLydic
IMO, whether the "stop sign" works or not is irrelevant. You've shown everyone in the gym (including the video) that you have had enough.

This is why it is recommended in this area. Even the video camera way way up there can see a stop sign.


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