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zebraman Fri Jan 19, 2007 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by mick
Z,
Rockyroad didn't have to beat her up for that call or patronize her. She fessed up and conceded. Why beat a dead horse?

So, Rockyroad,
..."Did you give her the "do you trust me" speech?" - borrowed from Z.

This smiley face means I'm just jokin' Mick. :D

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 19, 2007 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by sj
What is reasoning for the men's side calling it two fouls rather than getting together and picking one?

Two fouls were called, and no official can overrule another. . . :shrug:

mick Fri Jan 19, 2007 04:00pm

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Originally Posted by zebraman
This smiley face means I'm just jokin' Mick. :D

Yeah !
I knew that, Z.
That's why I quoted you ! :)

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 19, 2007 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
As bad as it is (and feels) to have a blarge, at least you didn't have to go to the table and say, "we have two fouls on the play". You could get together and -- gasp! -- get the right call.

Unless something has changed that I don't know about, the right call in Federation is a double foul. You may not like it, but it comes straight from the horse's mouth.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 19, 2007 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by sj
What is reasoning for the men's side calling it two fouls rather than getting together and picking one?

Even if you establish a priority based on primaries as the Women's side has done, you could still end up with the wrong call. The mechanic does little to actually ensure the call is right since it automatically defaults to an official based on primaries. Some may believe that it's better to go with the double foul and penalize both rather than arbitrarily picking one based on who can convince the other that it was in their primary.

Also, there are locations that even the women's mechanics don't really deal with completely...boundaries between primaries or double coverage areas. The officials still have to make a decision.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 19, 2007 07:04pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
As bad as it is (and feels) to have a blarge, at least you didn't have to go to the table and say, "we have two fouls on the play". You could get together and -- gasp! -- get the right call.

But who is right? Both officials saw if from a different angle and have already judged the play differently based on what they saw.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 19, 2007 08:43pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
But who is right? Both officials saw if from a different angle and have already judged the play differently based on what they saw.

You beat me to it, Camron. That's exactly why you end up with a double foul in NFHS and NCAA Mens. I've often wondered in the womens game if the final foul determination goes to the official with the dominant personality.


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