They just tossed the coach....
Working a boys varsity game last night about 80 miles from the ranch with a guy I've only worked with once or twice.
We got there early and watched the visiting coach get all over the JV officials. He was standing quite a bit (a no-no here, as only varsity head coaches get the 14 foot box) and was generally obnoxious. After the third quarter, we went in to get dressed. The JV game was close when we went in, and the fourth quarter seemed to be taking forever, so I came out to see how much time was left. 2:00 and the game was tied. Just then the site manager came up to me and said, "They just tossed the visiting coach." Really? I had yet to see a JV crew do so much as call a technical foul in five years in Wisconsin and I missed an ejection? So I walked back to the locker room to tell my partner and as I do, I noticed the visiting team coach pacing the hallway. Apparently, according to the site manager, he got tossed from the same teams' JV game 2 years earlier. And according to the officials, he had earned the first technical, and in response, the coach said, "You must be from (the home school's town)" and he got another one. Good ejection, but the first technical should've come in the first quarter, not the fourth. Coaches were a bit yappy in the varsity game, but nothing sustained and nothing worth mentioning. And the ejected JV coach sat in the front row of the bleachers all by himself. |
Nice job out of the JV guys!
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What's the problem? ;)
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I, like a lot of you, enforce sportsmanship a little tougher at the lower level. I still work a full Freshman-JV schedule as well as my full Varsity schedule and handful of JUCO games (I'm a single guy so I might as well be out there making some money doing what I love) and I probably throw twice as many T's in the lower level games. My only ejections in my career (1 coach, player and fan) to this point have all taken place in lower level games.
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As an assignor did you have to send yourself a report? :eek:
I agree totally - you constantly see threads here about taking care of business - I guess that we are the only ones doing it - Those I seeout there who do not commmunicate with other officials sure are not. Dealing with coaches and players at lower levels is like teaching little children - you have to be strict with them in their formative years - so that they learn what is acceptable behavior and what is not. Thus as the progress through the ranks they will mature and know how to behave properly, and which fork to use etc. The same can be said for almost every point of emphasis we have seen through out the years - If it is dealt with early and often " They will adjust" |
I have even gone a step further. The only coach that I have tossed was a middle school coach that was making a travesty out of the game and sportsmanship. She was insulting to her players as well as to my partner and I. Early in the first quarter following a time out I quietly mentioned to her that we were in a small gym and that the sound carried well hinting she might want to calm down. First whistle after that she told her guard that we (the officials) were certifiable morons etc. Her guard was under the basket. That was her first. The second came about 15 seconds later. Still trying to calm her down as she was pacing on the court, I told her she had to sit on the bench, and get back to coaching so we could continue the game. She asked what would happen if she didn't sit back down. When I told her - she poked me in the chest with her fingers and said I didn't have the balls to do it.
She was wrong. After the game we showered and when we came out there were several parents from that team waiting in the hall. First thought was "trouble" but they were waiting to thank us. |
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Even I've never had to T up a Varsity coach, at least not yet, they usually keep their benches behaved, and themselves behaved because they have experience coaching and know that they're there to coach and not complain about me.
Although the other day, doing a freshman game, I had a coach who earned a T, first T all year I think, (It's been a slow year) every time I was down by his bench, I was getting, "they're travelling, every time up the court they're travelling...etc..." after about the third time of this, I waited for a dead ball, and went to chat with the coach, telling him that his behaviour was unsporting and that if he continued we would have no choice but to issue a technical. To which he replied, "If you'd just call the travelling we wouldn't be in this mess." (Loud enough for everyone to hear, I might add) So a no brainer, I whacked him. He didn't say a word for the remainder of the game. And as luck would have it, I was being evaluated that game. I got kudos from the evaluator on how I handled the situation. The moral of the story...it never hurts to take care of business. |
In my first year of officiating I was working a G-JV game....the Varsity Coach was on the bench "just helping out"(He had a rep as being a yapper and no one really liked him, this I did not know)
Anyway about half way through the 1st quarter. he stands up and gets on us about a call.....He had been warned earlier.....I T him up. At the end of the 1st quarter he standing up at the bench talking at me.....I just looked at him gave him the big stop sign and said that's enough coach....he kept at it so I ran him......... At our next meeting it was announced that I ran this Varsity Coach from the JV game.......I got a standing ovation and became a legend all in one night......People still talk about it.......... |
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I hear they do that in Portland, too. |
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I got it down in my 3rd year i think, it was a while ago though, but I remember it like it was yesterday. There was this coach, who I've had many dealings with in the past including a few T's, it got to the point where he'd earn a T in every game of his I did. And we kept running into eachother. Well, this one game, he was chewing into my partner, who was a rookie, I'm across the court, and just stare at him as he's talking to my partner. He instantly shut up walked to his chair and sat down. That stare has been my friend over the next few years, and I still use it today. That look is one of our best assets, as it helps us avoid messy situations. |
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If you want to <b>really</b> piss a hot-headed coach off, just be completely neutral with them. No arguing, no wisecracks, no yelling.....just show them that you're composed at all times, in total control of the situation and that nothing they can do or say can ever get to you. You certainly should take care of business if you have to, but if you don't have to take care of business, then you're ahead of the game imo. Personally, my warning is also a promise. Coaches learn that after a while. All of this is jmo, and it might not work for everybody, but I think that it's worked for me. Of course, having said that I've also gotta say that sometimes it doesn't really matter what approach you take. You're gonna have to unload a player or a coach sometimes and there's really nothing that you can do about it. But I'd rather they throw themselves out of the game with their <b>own</b> actions, without being able to try and pin part of the blame on any of <b>my</b> actions. It sureasheck makes the report-writing easier. Again, jmo. |
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In my first year I was doing a JV boys game and some old guy was sitting behind the table making comments about the officiating. At one point after a call he stands up and shouts "what are you guys doing? Let them play!!". I had him removed from the gym. Turns out the old guy was the varsity head coach and AD at that school forever. After the JV game he lets himself into our dressing room (his office :rolleyes: ) and lets me know who's office we are standing in and who signs my checks in that office. Unluckily for him my partner and the 2 varsity officials were there to witness what happened. I filed a grievance with my association including a letter of complaint to the school board and the assignor. 2 months later I got a handwritten letter of apology from the old guy. Still have it too. When he retired the following year there was a big story about him in the local paper...what a great guy he is, role model for the student-athletes, blah blah blah. I was tempted to send a letter to the editor with a copy of his signed apology. I didn't do it. To this day I have never been back to that school. |
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Ref Dan.
Outstanding my friend! |
What Ron and Dan did in their very first year of officiating quite simply amazes me.
To have that confidence with limited experience is a gift. They are obviously "Naturals". |
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