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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 11:45am
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player coming off bench

During a boys JV game at this happen and would like to hear thoughts.

About 3 minutes left in 4th quarter after a foul is called, white has a throw-in near the division line in their front court opposite the table. I am the lead right next to white's bench. Before ball is handed to thrower a white player leaves the floor. So we can't have a violation for leaving the court. I didn't hear a horn, beckon subs, see subs, or see my partner beckon subs. So now I'm trying to look through the bodies and find out how many players are there. I see 4 white guys (of course) but can't see whether there is a 5th out on the wing near my partner (there is not). Anyway before I can whistle of get a hand up, the ball is handed to the white player. After the ball is thrown in and white is getting their offense set (maybe 8 seconds off clock) the white player realizes he wasnt replaced, gets off his bench and enters the court right in front of me. What made it kind of interesting was that he was in such a hurry to get back on the floor that he incidentally kicked his chair over on his way onto the floor and it crashed down so it may have looked like somebody was angry and kicked the chair if they weren't watching. I blew my whistle and signalled a T. When going by the coach to report, I told him that it had to be called and he said "I didn't see what happened." I now realize he said this because he thought it was for unsportmanlike behavior, not entering the floor.

My questions:

Who gets the T in this situation? I am inclined to think the player who entered the floor based on 10-4-2. I also think this should also go indirectly to the Coach because he did become bench personnel. And it would also be a team foul.

Should I have killed this ASAP when i realized there were only 4 whites?

Do I go back to tell the coach what happened after reporting this? He didn't have any questions or wasn't trying to get my attention.

When reporting a T (this was my first) what sort of things do you have to make sure you tell the table? I think I kind of rushed through this part of it.

Are there levels where you try to not penalize this action because they are just learning the game?

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I look forward to hearing some responses to help me.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 11:59am
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Case play 10.3.3 Situation B:

After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains there, believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is brining the ball into A's frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they only have four players. The coach yells for A5 to return and A5 sprints directly onto the court without reporting or without being beckoned.
RULING: A technical foul is charged to A5 for returning during playing action even though A5 had not been replaced.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 12:11pm
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That case play nails it I think. In that case, then there wouldn't be an indirect to the coach because he is still a player I'm assuming. Is this right?
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 01:00pm
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That case play nails it I think. In that case, then there wouldn't be an indirect to the coach because he is still a player I'm assuming. Is this right?
Yep that is right.
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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 03:53am
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Watched a JVB game (while waiting for my VB Game) last night where this EXACT situation occurred. Let's just say the officials were not as "on top of it" as you were. Good Call.
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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 12:54pm
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Well I wasn't quite on top of it... I charged the T to the HC but later realized that would only be if the player was DQed. But now I know.

Anybody have an answer to trying to stop the play before this happens either before or after ball becomes live?
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