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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 12:05am
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She dropped her clipboard?

GJV tonight. A1 goes up for a shot, well contested and no foul. I'm lead on the table side and hear what sounds like a clipboard fall. I look over after the rebounding scrum subsides and see a flabbergasted coach standing next to her clipboard lying on the floor.
I know she threw it down in disgust, but I didn't see it, so I couldn't call it. Frankly, I just ignored it and let her stew. Anyone would have done it different?
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 12:26am
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Mostly likely, as in 99.85%, no.

But I have T'd a coach up without seeing all the action they we doing. It was more of a game management call than anything.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 01:15am
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Coach, maybe if you were sitting down you'd have better clipboard control.

Just kidding.

You did the right thing.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 03:08am
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If I see it, automatic T.

If I hear it and the board is on the playing surface when I look over, I'm calling it then too.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 06:00am
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I would never dream of giving a technical foul to a coach for merely dropping their clipboard.

Allowing it to hit the floor is a whole 'nother matter though.....
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 06:15am
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I don't think it's a good habit to get into calling things you don't see and it's certainly bad advice to tell officials to call a technical they didn't clearly see. The fact of the matter is, we only got 1 set of eyes, and depending on what we're watching at the time, it's possible we just didn't see it, therefore, I'm got no call, and I'm not losing any sleep over it either. Case in point, I'm the lead, watching moving screens in the lane, 4 players (2 offense 2 defense) are to my right on the court, but I'm watching activity in the lane, moving screens, etc. Two players (A1 - B1) Trail has because they got the ball. The other 2 players, closest to me, I assume A2 made a move toward the basket and then decided to quickly come back for the pass, well, all of a sudden, B2 guarding A2 hits the floor. Coach is yelling at me, he just pushed him down on the floor, come on...!!!! I was like coach, look at my eyes, I'm looking off-ball in the lane, I didn't see it, therefore, I got no call. B2 could have just fallen on his own, or he could have gotten push, I don't know.

Now the coach dropping the clipboard is now on a real short leash with me and I'm watching, and if there's no more problems. Chalk it up, move on. Now if you suspected it was done on purpose, couple things to check. Is she in the coaching box? If not, technical for that. Give her a long hard stare, inviting her to say something. She says the wrong thing, technical.
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Old Sat Jan 13, 2007, 10:14am
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Give her a long hard stare, inviting her to say something. She says the wrong thing, technical.
A lot of people would call this 'baiting' the coach. I think it's appropriate just to keep an eye on her from that point.
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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 11:10am
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GJV tonight. A1 goes up for a shot, well contested and no foul. I'm lead on the table side and hear what sounds like a clipboard fall. I look over after the rebounding scrum subsides and see a flabbergasted coach standing next to her clipboard lying on the floor.
I know she threw it down in disgust, but I didn't see it, so I couldn't call it. Frankly, I just ignored it and let her stew. Anyone would have done it different?
Something similar happened to me some years ago: an object was dropped on the court; my partner and I didn't see who dropped it, but nevertheless we decided to eject the responsible.

Why? Well, the object was a chair and the person who used to sit on it was the analog of the game manager (more precisely the person responsible for the officials' needs).

Of course a clipboard is a bit different from a chair. If I don't see how it came to the floor, I would not T the coach, but probably keep an eye on the bench.

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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 01:01pm
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My second year as an official, I had a coach slam his clipboard on his chair with both hands as I was walking to report a foul. Yep . . . see ya coach.
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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 09:00pm
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My second year as an official, I had a coach slam his clipboard on his chair with both hands as I was walking to report a foul. Yep . . . see ya coach.
You tossed him? That rises to the level of a flagrant T in your mind? Everyone has their own threshold I guess. I guess I'm a little too lenient as I would only T this. If I'm giving a coach a Flagrant T and a shower it's going to be for more than abusing inanimate objects. F-bombs and other abusive language directed at me or my partner is where my Flagrant T is coming out. To each his/her own I guess.
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Old Sun Jan 14, 2007, 09:42pm
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F-bombs and other abusive language directed at me or my partner is where my Flagrant T is coming out. To each his/her own I guess.
Don't forget, the same OS who said he'd T the coach for the clipboard said that foul language like that only deserves a WARNING.
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