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HawkeyeCubP Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:07pm

Rant on - Veteran Partner rule/mechanic misapplications
 
Rant on - My last two games - both boys' varsity, have been two-person; both involving me being paired with "veteran" officials who have 16 and 15 years (one included some supposed juco experience and NBA camps in his resume) experience, according to them. Just a few, minor (sarcasm on) rule and mechanic issues of complete and utter nonsense and incorrectness occurred that I feel compelled to share with someone.

Partner "Juco" issue #1 - Insisted that on a throw-in (this first occurred following a time-out request while the ball was in the paint following a throw-in after a made basket), if the ball is going the other way (long way down the court), that the throw-in location rules (and pretty easy to understand diagram) do not apply, since the team in the frontcourt is not throwing the ball in. (Ball should always be on the side, according to Juco.) :confused:

Partner "Juco" issue #2 - Was sure that the throw-in location following shooting two free throws for a single technical foul was determined by POI. :confused: (This is the first time I've had someone try to insert POI where it wasn't applicable, as opposed to the AP arrow.)

Partner "McUnfriendly and Patronizing" issue #1 - After asking me where I stand during 30-second time-outs and getting my NFHS Official's Manual answer, corrected me (yeah, this type of guy), by stating that the actual NFHS mechanic is to stand at the lane line extended farther from the table - not at the top of the three point arc, like the Official's Manual states and shows.

Partner "McUnfriendly and Patronizing" issue #2 - After asking me what I would do as Lead with a foul on a shooter with the try being successful, and me giving my step-by-step answer, from fist up and whistle to where I would end up as Trail for the free throw, educated me to the fact that it's not a high school mechanic to signal "count the basket/goal is successful." According to McUnfriendly and Patronizing, "Yeah, a lot of guys are suprised when I tell them that, cuz they pick that up from watching the college and pro game, but it's not a Fed mechanic." He was essentially saying that even if, as Lead, one sees the ball enter the basket, one should not signal so, but should wait for partner to come in and inform you of this. (This is about where I start slightly furrowing my brow, tilting my head, nodding, and saying the occassional, "Hmm," in response to his blather.)

Partner "McUnfriendly and Patronizing" issue #3 - At the conclusion of his "pre-game," asked me if "I see anything out there or have anything else?" - A20 (white jerseys, red stripe down the sides) was wearing red sweatbands on both wrists, and so I pointed this out, thinking this is what he was looking for me to do. He asks why that's an issue? I respond with the rule, verbatim. His response, after a long pause: "Well, it's the predominant color of that stripe there, so I'm not going to make him take them off.":mad:

Partner "McUnfriendly and Patronizing" issue #4 - Refused to show/mirror a successful 3-point goal from my area when I was Lead and he was Trail. I say "refused," not because I asked him about this at half time, as, by that point, I was in extreme "in-done-out" mode, nor because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on somehow never having seen my signals, but because I know he saw me during most of these, as he was staring right at me (with my arm(s) in the air) through the lane as the ball was taken out of bounds, and players were heading the other way, and did nothing. :confused: (Luckily, those at the table were quick enough to lean forward and find me and my signal on the baseline, so no issues resulted.)

#5 - Refused to bump-and-run - said it was "easier" not to do so.

#6 - Long-switched every time possible.

#7 - Stated that it is the Umpire's responsibility to administer the AP throw-in to start the 2nd and 4th quarters, according to high school mechanics, as the Referee is busy approving the score, etc., between those quarters.:rolleyes:

I am now ready for my fun game with a good partner tonight, please.

Thank you for reading and being part of my theraputical process. Have a nice day.:)

swkansasref33 Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:12pm

haha wow... i hope i never have to officiate with anyone like that :eek:

Jway44 Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:14pm

Always love a night with the "know-it-all" officials. Every association has a few of them, and all we can do is get through the night and look forward to your next crew.

Kevzebra Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:17pm

Sounds to me like that guy needs to go back to the Y and do their leagues!

Drizzle Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:17pm

Yep, we've all been there. "Get in, get done, get out!"

Scrapper1 Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:03am

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
Partner "Juco" issue #2 - Was sure that the throw-in location following shooting two free throws for a single technical foul was determined by POI. :confused: (This is the first time I've had someone try to insert POI where it wasn't applicable, as opposed to the AP arrow.)

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rainmaker Sat Jan 13, 2007 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by swkansasref33
haha wow... i hope i never have to officiate with anyone like that :eek:

Watch out what you wish for. If you haven't already had a partner like this, you'll get one sooner or later, unless you either die or break both legs. The think to work hard on is never becoming this person. That's something you can control.

zebraman Sat Jan 13, 2007 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
The thing to work hard on is never becoming this person. That's something you can control.

Good call rainmaker. Let us not forget from whence we came. :)

Mountaineer Sat Jan 13, 2007 04:05pm

Early in my career these types intimidated me. Now that I am strong enough to handle myself I would tell him he's wrong and do proper mechanics and make it obvious who the a$$ was in case we were being observed.

rainmaker Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:28pm

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Originally Posted by zebraman
Good call rainmaker. Let us not forget from whence we came. :)

You dork...


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