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Sorry zebra, but this is incorrect. Read toolman's reply. He nailed it! (No pun intended TT)

I do not verbalize the type of foul, which is what the NFHS Officials Manual suggests.

Well perhaps having our state commissioner as the driving force on the NFHS rules committee for the signal being added means I may just have a little insight on how it is to be used despite a lack of clarification from the Fed.;)

Where does it say the "Team Control signal" has to be pointing in the other direction of where you are going? To communicate that you are going the other way and to point the other way are not necessarily the same things.

I am just telling you what it says in the current and most recent literature in the NF Publication. It does not say the signal has to be in the direction of the basket, it just says how the signal is used. They just added the signal this year, so what a book might indicate that was published over a year ago does not apply. Either way it goes you do what you are told despite what the NF book says because any state can use mechanics outside of that book anyway.

Peace

JR: how can you have a SIGNAL that "will communicate that the ball is going the other direction" without pointing in that direction?

Easy. The definition of the signal itself indicates it. If there is a fist extended, then we know which way it will be going (assuming you know which team had control of the ball...which is usually pretty obvious).

This is exactly how we were advised by our state board during this years rules clinic. Nice description TT.

The signal only means one thing. BTW, there is nothing in the literature that indicates that we must point in a specific direction at the table. My main point is they do not say specifically that we have to point in the direction we are going or else. It might be our usual practice, but if you do not point in the proper way we are not going to change the meaning. No more than a player control foul signal would do.

Peace

A little bit of contrast here - OUR state commissioner was the chief opponant of the new signal. Of course Mary Struckoff wants to bring everything from the NCAA womens into the HS ranks. Our guy hates the signal tough. It's one of the few things I actually agree with him about . . .

We need some signal to let everyone know we are not shooting FTs with this new rule. There were a bunch of times last year where we wasted time answering questions about whether we shoot FTs or not. I really do not care what the signal was, just as long as there was one.

Peace

Wow, this opens up some ideas maybe we can submit to the Fed.

The most current literature is the 2005-2007 officials manual where it says to point in the direction of the non-fouling team on a team control foul, and there is nothing in the handout that specifically says otherwise.

I love the signal, in fact if I had my way it would be the only signal for a player/team control foul...just rename it offensive control foul.

Considering that this was put out without a signal being approved, to use it now as evidence of something is a bit suspect. The publication that the NF used to introduce things like this did not indicate in any way you had to point towards a direction. That really was my only point on this. I know I point in the direction we are going, but it still is not required.

Wait until the next book comes out and see what that one says. ;)

Peace

Why? Coaches should know immediately if free throws are going to be shot and the fans will figure it out soon. I don't like using it in NCAA women's either.

Peace