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missinglink Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:45pm

another backcourt question
 
Frosh girls. A1 is advancing the ball by walking speed dribble from her right backcourt. She is angling to her left diagonally and crosses the division line in the middle of the center circle. She picks up her dribble on the division line and the ball's last bounce was in frontcourt; right foot is in front court, left foot is in backcourt and neither foot has been made pivot. A1 passes to A2 in backcourt to her left. I called backcourt violation as I judged ball had achieved frontcourt status based on its last bounce and three point principle application ceased upon cessation of advance on dribble. My partner said I got it wrong based upon 3 point principle and I am not so sure now.

Ignats75 Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:47pm

Third point is the foot in the back court, if I read your description properly. Therefore, no violation.

rainmaker Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by missinglink
Frosh girls. A1 is advancing the ball by walking speed dribble from her right backcourt. She is angling to her left diagonally and crosses the division line in the middle of the center circle. She picks up her dribble on the division line and the ball's last bounce was in frontcourt; right foot is in front court, left foot is in backcourt and neither foot has been made pivot. A1 passes to A2 in backcourt to her left. I called backcourt violation as I judged ball had achieved frontcourt status based on its last bounce and three point principle application ceased upon cessation of advance on dribble. My partner said I got it wrong based upon 3 point principle and I am not so sure now.

The three point principle is that the ball does not achieve frontcourt status on a dribble from bc to fc untill all three points have touched in the frontcourt consecutively. Since she stopped her dribble with one foot in the bc, the ball had never achieved fc status, and still doesn't have it because she still has one foot in the bc. No violation.

armymanjones Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
The three point principle is that the ball does not achieve frontcourt status on a dribble from bc to fc untill all three points have touched in the frontcourt consecutively. Since she stopped her dribble with one foot in the bc, the ball had never achieved fc status, and still doesn't have it because she still has one foot in the bc. No violation.

I agree with Rainmaker

rainmaker Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by armymanjones
I agree with Rainmaker

I'm not the one that said it. It's not an opinion. So you can't agree with me or disagree with me. It's not me, it's the rule.

deecee Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:54pm

girls frosh -- what's a backcourt violation? lol

rainmaker Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
girls frosh -- what's a backcourt violation? lol

Do you lay awake nights thinking of ways to get flamed!?!?

Raymond Fri Jan 05, 2007 04:28pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
I'm not the one that said it. It's not an opinion. So you can't agree with me or disagree with me. It's not me, it's the rule.

Well technically, since you did not quote directly from the rulebook, what you wrote is your interpretation of the rule.

So Army is agreeing with your interpretation of the rule.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 05, 2007 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
girls frosh -- what's a backcourt violation? lol

Well, if you want to continue working girls frosh, deecee, you'd better learn to call it. They deserve proper officiating.

deecee Fri Jan 05, 2007 04:51pm

i guess my lol didnt tickle anyones funny bones

lol = laugh out loud

like travel and jump ball (moreso the jumpballs) are the 3 most common violations in these games -- and to be technical OOB as well i guess.

Nevadaref Fri Jan 05, 2007 05:32pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
i guess my lol didnt tickle anyones funny bones

lol = laugh out loud

like travel and jump ball (moreso the jumpballs) are the 3 most common violations in these games -- and to be technical OOB as well i guess.

To be technical a "jump ball" (you really mean held ball) is not a violation. :p

LOL! :)


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