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GoodwillRef Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:35am

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Originally Posted by SCREF
Looking for a thread about "T's" and came across this page. Last night at HS tournament the following takes place: Less than 10 secs left in game, team A leads by three points and has break-away steal; A1 is headed towards his basket followed by B1 and trailed by A2; A1 lays ball up and misses, trailing A2goes high above basket to slam home the rebound but is unable to secure control of the ball. A2 then decides as long as he's up there he grabs the rim. A! and B1 are not under A2 and A2 is in no danger of being hurt if he had simply returned to the floor without grasping rim. Official calls foul, team B makes 1 of 2 and then ties game with two point shot, goes into OT and team B wins game. Wrath against official is minimized because team A coach blew 15 point lead with 5 minutes to go in the game. What do you guys think; was the T the correct call?


Why wouldn't it be a technical?

Mark Padgett Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:10am

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Originally Posted by SCREF
Looking for a thread about "T's" and came across this page. Last night at HS tournament the following takes place: Less than 10 secs left in game, team A leads by three points and has break-away steal; A1 is headed towards his basket followed by B1 and trailed by A2; A1 lays ball up and misses, trailing A2goes high above basket to slam home the rebound but is unable to secure control of the ball. A2 then decides as long as he's up there he grabs the rim. A! and B1 are not under A2 and A2 is in no danger of being hurt if he had simply returned to the floor without grasping rim. Official calls foul, team B makes 1 of 2 and then ties game with two point shot, goes into OT and team B wins game. Wrath against official is minimized because team A coach blew 15 point lead with 5 minutes to go in the game. What do you guys think; was the T the correct call?

Have to endorse GoodwillRef's thought. If you were the official on the court and you did not call the T, what justification would you give when subsequently asked about it? This is textbook officiating.

Adam Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:59am

"Wrath against official?" How about the wrath against A2? Great call by the ref!

MJT Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin
Since the topic has been opened, had a game once where we gave SEVEN technical fouls. My partner gave SIX, I gave one.

First one was for dunking before the game.

Next one (#2), player from visiting team complains about a call (openly and loudly) to my partner.

Third one, visiting coach is all over my partner.

Fourth one, same player as second T; he yells at me, "call the foul B&*ch!" As he tried to split two set defenders. Yep, he got tossed.

Fifth one, visiting team coach is all over my partner again. He gets the heave-ho.

Sixth one, the assistant from the visiting team gets it after getting on my partner again.

Seventh one, the assistant from the visiting team gets the big "see ya!" Then proceeds to go after my partner. My partner then "escorts" this coach to the door. (I know, NOT recommended, but he "knew" what he was doing - yeah right.)

Visiting team has to finish the ENTIRE 4th quarter with a student-teacher intern as their "acting coach." The Head Coach, Assistant Coach, the Player, and about 20 parents are ALL waiting outside for us after the game. Let's just say I didn't stop to visit. My partner did though. I learned a lot about how NOT to handle games that night.

Private, "Christian" schools! Gotta love 'em! Oh yeah, and those "mistakes" that we ALL make . . . they happen. It is about how well you adjust and move on that will make the difference in the rest of your night. Have fun, and welcome to the board.

Cannot beleive the administration does not take care of these kinds of situations so they never happen again. Way out of hand!

lucky1313 Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:02am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Just curious - what's your signal for a technical foul - arms outstretched to your side with your hands in fists? :confused:

Why???? Was he calling a double foul;)

Corndog89 Sat Dec 30, 2006 09:42pm

I posted this several months ago but it's worth repeating. I had a partner in a rec game give 6 T's to a player...don't recall the details other than after the first two he refused to leave the court. After #6 his teammates finally made him leave. However, the best (i.e., the most memorable) part was bouncing the ball to the shooter and saying "12 shots".

Mark Dexter Sat Dec 30, 2006 09:46pm

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Originally Posted by Corndog89
I posted this several months ago but it's worth repeating. I had a partner in a rec game give 6 T's to a player...don't recall the details other than after the first two he refused to leave the court. After #6 his teammates finally made him leave. However, the best (i.e., the most memorable) part was bouncing the ball to the shooter and saying "12 shots".

At some point (probably around #3 or #4), this turns into 'making a travesty of the game' for me and I'm heading home.

mplagrow Sat Dec 30, 2006 09:49pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
At some point (probably around #3 or #4), this turns into 'making a travesty of the game' for me and I'm heading home.

Agreed. That's on the coach. After #3, I'm asking the coach if he's getting his player out of there of if we're calling it a night.

Corndog89 Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
At some point (probably around #3 or #4), this turns into 'making a travesty of the game' for me and I'm heading home.

Oh you're absolutely right. But this was a men's rec league (i.e., no real coaches) and there was another game after that one so there was no leaving.

But the real reason was that my partner was stubborn as hell and refused to let this guy get the best of him. My partner Ray (excellent official, BTW) was a big black guy (6'5"/250 or so) with a larger-than-life personality, plus he had the officiating contract at this particular gym for all their leagues. He didn't want the inmates to think they could run the asylum by acting like jacka$$es.

The unintentional comedy factor for this scene was just through the roof...this scrawny little douchebag trying to face big Ray down was hysterical. It was all I could do to keep a straight face. Then the added bonus of getting to say "12 shots"...One of the highlights of my rec league career.

BTW, not that it's relevant, but one of Ray's brothers played a couple years for the Harlem Globetrotters.

RavishingRev Mon Oct 27, 2008 03:39pm

Based on what I read, if all of your information is correct, and he hung on the rim excessively, yes, a T should have been called on the dumb kid!

Adam Mon Oct 27, 2008 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by RavishingRev (Post 546323)
Based on what I read, if all of your information is correct, <strike>and he hung on the rim excessively,</strike> yes, a T should have been called on the dumb kid!

Wow, you're bringing up an old dead thread.

BTW, the part I lined out is completely irrelevant.


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