Technical Foul

[ltllng]

Just want to make sure I understand the NFHS rules on this.

4th Quarter - Team B has 6 players on the floor. Somehow the referees do not pick up the problem until 5 seconds is gone from the clock.

Indirect technical is called on the coach. 2 free throws and the ball for team A. Team fouls are increased by one. Coach now has a indirect, thus must sit.

Please confirm our findings.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ltllng

Just want to make sure I understand the NFHS rules on this.

4th Quarter - Team B has 6 players on the floor. Somehow the referees do not pick up the problem until 5 seconds is gone from the clock.

Indirect technical is called on the coach. 2 free throws and the ball for team A. Team fouls are increased by one. Coach now has a indirect, thus must sit.

Please confirm our findings.

Not quite right.
1. Having more than five team members participating must be detected while it is being violated in order to be penalized. In your case, it was.
2. The proper penalty is a TEAM technical foul per rule 10-1-6.
3. 2 FTs and the ball at the division line are awarded to the opponent.
4. One team foul is added to the offending team's total for the half that counts towards reaching the bonus for the opponents.
5. The head coach of the offending team is NOT charged with an indirect T and may still use the coaching box.

[Rusty Gilbert]

What he said.

[REFVA]

For that situation, I would not penalize the team. As an official we should have detected and not put the ball in play until you had counted the number of players from each team. IMO

[crazy voyager]

Why? It's the coaches responsibility, not the officials. We have no obligation to count the players

[bigdogrunnin]

Preventative officiating is the key. ALWAYS count the number of players EACH team has on the floor before putting the ball in play. But . . . CV is right. The responsibility lies with the Head Coach, and what Nevada said.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by REFVA

For that situation, I would not penalize the team. As an official we should have detected and not put the ball in play until you had counted the number of players from each team. IMO

Does that mean that you won't penalize someone if you see them wearing an illegal number either because you should have caught it before.

You may want to read case book play 10.1.6(a).

Sorry, but you're completely wrong in your thinking. Just call the rules we have and don't make up your own.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Does that mean that you won't penalize someone if you see them wearing an illegal number either because you should have caught it before.

You may want to read case book play 10.1.6(a).

Sorry, but you're completely wrong in your thinking. Just call the rules we have and don't make up your own.

A-freakin-men!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by REFVA

For that situation, I would not penalize the team. As an official we should have detected and not put the ball in play until you had counted the number of players from each team. IMO

Then my question to you is: In what situation would you penalize for having too many players on the court?

[Junker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Then my question to you is: In what situation would you penalize for having too many players on the court?

Ideally never. As a crew you should communicate and make sure you have 10 players ready to go. That being said, if the officials don't catch it, it's really on the coach and the players to make sure there's the right number out there. If you have too many call the T. In the situation described, it sounds like there may not have been enough communication between partners before the ball was at the disposal of the inbounder. After 5 seconds elapse with too many players, you absolutely have to call the T.