NBA...at it again!

[Adam]

I'm with Junker. For the most part, I just don't like the way the game is played in the NBA. That's not good or bad, it's just my personal preference. I much prefer the college game; and even then I tend to prefer small college ball.
I do watch the NFL, but get equally disgusted when there's a fight between players. It shows an immature lack of self control and discipline.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I do watch the NFL, but get equally disgusted when there's a fight between players. It shows an immature lack of self control and discipline.

When are there really fights in football? The only fights I can think of that took place in the NFL were before the game and the rules were changed in mid-season to eliminate those situations. The NFL players have pads on and this is almost never a problem. Of course some pushing and shoving from time to time, but that happens at all levels as well.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

When are there really fights in football? The only fights I can think of that took place in the NFL were before the game and the rules were changed in mid-season to eliminate those situations. The NFL players have pads on and this is almost never a problem. Of course some pushing and shoving from time to time, but that happens at all levels as well.

Peace

I'm talking specifically about the Raiders/Seahawks incident on MNF a month or so ago, and the stomping incident this year. You're right, for the most part, fights in the NFL amount to quick cheap shots that don't continue. Probably because they're wearing pads.

That said, the University of Miami put everyone (including the Pistons, Pacers, Knicks, and Nuggets) to shame this fall. They set the bar pretty high for brawling.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm talking specifically about the Raiders/Seahawks incident on MNF a month or so ago, and the stomping incident this year. You're right, for the most part, fights in the NFL amount to quick cheap shots that don't continue. Probably because they're wearing pads.

I see what you are saying. But this scuffle (Raiders/Seahawks) was just between two players and it was over. Players did not come off the bench and even players on the field did not get involved. What does happen sometimes is an opponent goes into a bench area and things to get heated, but usually everyone gets the participants separated and it is over very quickly.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That said, the University of Miami put everyone (including the Pistons, Pacers, Knicks, and Nuggets) to shame this fall. They set the bar pretty high for brawling.

Actually I think the Clemson-South Carolina fight was pretty bad and likely worse than the Miami-FIU fight. Funny thing is the Clemson-South Carolina happen a few days after the Artest incident.

Peace

[Adam]

You're right; there's a lot of jawing in football, and it usually leads to nothing. I wonder if part of the reason is that there's a legal way to take your frustrations out on someone.

I think people focus on the basketball stuff for a couple of reasons. First of all, because it's so rare. A fight in hockey isn't news because it's a daily thing, and they have procedures in place to both allow for it and to contain it. A scuffle in football isn't news because no one usually gets hurt (pads). When someone does get hurt (the horse collar on Larry Johnson or the lineman getting stomped with cleats), its an anomoly and it gets a lot of attention.
I think another reason is that when a fight happens in basketball, there is a higher likelihood that the players involved are going to be star players. I knew the names of the players involved in the Raiders/Seahawks scuffle for about two days after that fight. Right now, I couldn't pick the two names out of a list of three people.
Anyone who follows basketball knows who Anthony is; they knew who Artest, Wallace, and company were before the throw down in the Palace. It's different when it's people you know. One guy pointed out that Anthony pulling this would be like Peyton Manning or Ladanian Tomlinson throwing a sucker punch and running off.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Right now, I couldn't pick the two names out of a list of three people.

Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck
Shaun Alexander
Jeremy Stevens

Raiders: Tyler Brayton
Randy Moss
Art Shell