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Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 13, 2006 08:54pm

Grownup pre-game
 
I'm at the stage in my career where I'm usually the senior official on any game I do, and I often get partnered with somebody much less experienced. So my pre-game tends to be geared towards making sure we're on the same page about very basic mechanics. Nothing condescending, but stuff that 1st and second year officials are still working to master. And it seems to be working pretty well.

However, later this weekend I'll be working with a 20 year vet. And that has me thinking...

What do the real vets talk about in their pre-games, especially if they (you) are working with somebody you've not worked with before?

Dan_ref Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:30pm

Team & team tendencies. What each coach is like. What each team is like: strengths, weaknesses. Any PIAs to worry about? How's the table here?

Weird plays we've had. Lessons learned.

You work that other level? Go over the rules differences. Mechanics differences.

How will we referee the post? Handchecks? What calls I want you to take in my area. What I don't want you to take in my area. How we handle kicked calls. How we handle blarge.

Consistency. What we want to call right away. What we might want to let go.

Is there a good diner in the area for post game? If not, see you down the road.

Let's get 'em pard.

Mark Dexter Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:49pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Any PIAs to worry about?

What's a PIA?

Congrats on post 7,000, BTW.

Texas Aggie Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:16am

I think he means "Pain in the " and you can figure out the rest. I don't know specifically who he's referring to.

Dan_ref Thu Dec 14, 2006 08:50am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
What's a PIA?

Congrats on post 7,000, BTW.

7000...geeze, not sure it's something to be congratulated about

PIA = pain in the @ss.

mbyron Thu Dec 14, 2006 09:02am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
PIA = pain in the @ss.

Around here that's PITA.

Not to be confused with PETA.

Scrapper1 Thu Dec 14, 2006 09:52am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Team & team tendencies. What each coach is like. What each team is like: strengths, weaknesses. Any PIAs to worry about? How's the table here?

Weird plays we've had. Lessons learned.

You work that other level? Go over the rules differences. Mechanics differences.

How will we referee the post? Handchecks? What calls I want you to take in my area. What I don't want you to take in my area. How we handle kicked calls. How we handle blarge.

Consistency. What we want to call right away. What we might want to let go.

This is a good list. I would add, "How do we handle situations where the play originates in my PCA and contact occurs in your PCA?" Drive starts outside the 3-point line in front of the Trail and then the contact occurs on the block in front of the Lead. Lots of different ways of handling it. I don't care how you handle it, as long as you all agree ahead of time.

TimTaylor Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Around here that's PITA.

Not to be confused with PETA.

People Eating Tasty Animals

yummmmmmm!

Huntin' Ref Thu Dec 14, 2006 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor
People Eating Tasty Animals

yummmmmmm!

Yes, I absolutely agree !

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 14, 2006 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor
People Eating Tasty Animals

yummmmmmm!

If God didn't intend us to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat? :D

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 14, 2006 08:48pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Around here that's PITA.

Not to be confused with PETA.

Or to be confused with <b>PETOL</b>.

http://petol.cjb.net/

I joined that organization out of sympathy for Chuck Elias and RockyRoad.

HoopsRefJunior Thu Dec 14, 2006 09:13pm

pregame
 
In Georgia, we do what has become known as "partnership" games. Members of two or three different officials associations from a general area are paired together to work certain games. These are primarilly invitational tournaments and a few key regular season games. They are usually assigned for evaluation purposes.

I agree with some of the features of other posts. We should discuss unusual plays and "lessons learned" from incidents we've had in the past.

I disagree with discussing how the coaches will act or react. I think that sets up the crew for preconceived notions about what may or may not occur in that particular game. I prefer staying focussed on how we will officiate.

mbyron Fri Dec 15, 2006 08:56am

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Originally Posted by HoopsRefJunior
In Georgia, we do what has become known as "partnership" games.

Here in Ohio, we passed a constitutional amendment that bans these: games must be between one man and one woman.

Adam Fri Dec 15, 2006 09:22am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Here in Ohio, we passed a constitutional amendment that bans these: games must be between one man and one woman.

Sounds like a quota to me. :)


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