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eyezen Tue Dec 12, 2006 03:29pm

UT's Pearl has trouble at another high school game
 
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....S0601/61209010

sj Tue Dec 12, 2006 04:11pm

One thing here is that there is sometimes a difference between telling a ref to let them play if they are standing right behind you and when they tell the ref the same thing from 10 rows up.

We had a guy standing next to the wall one night and just had him removed to the stands. After the game was over the superintendent of schools came in a balled us out for doing it. It was some big giver. The superintendent got written up.

Also there are a lot of passionate, emotional guys in coaching and they handle refs just fine so that's garbage.

Mwanr1 Tue Dec 12, 2006 04:46pm

That's BS - he should know better.

JRutledge Tue Dec 12, 2006 05:01pm

Serves his a$$ right.

Peace

jeepinchad Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:26am

Yeah... if he is there to scout... than scout. If he is there to give the refs a hard time, pick a spot better than "under the basket" to do it from (like out in the parking lot).

Jimgolf Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:45am

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Originally Posted by jeepinchad
Yeah... if he is there to scout... than scout.

Can't scout much when the player you're supposed to be scouting is on the bench with 3 fouls.

Jimgolf Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:46am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Serves his a$$ right.

Peace

I thought you're a Michigan fan. You should have been happy to see him go.

jeepinchad Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Can't scout much when the player you're supposed to be scouting is on the bench with 3 fouls.

So go get a hot dog. :D

JRutledge Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:22am

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
I thought you're a Michigan fan. You should have been happy to see him go.

Huh?

Peace

Jimgolf Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:57pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Huh?

Peace

Your sig: Bo Schembechler tribute? Go Blue? Isn't that Michigan speak?
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
Serves his a$$ right.

Peace

Wasn't Weber the Illinois coach? Wouldn't a Michigan fan be happy to see the Illini be less successful?

Dan_ref Wed Dec 13, 2006 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Can't scout much when the player you're supposed to be scouting is on the bench with 3 fouls.

I would think that unless the officials are completely incompetent a smart D1 coach would want to see how the recruit reacts to playing outside of his game. If the head coach shows up he's probably already convinced the kid has talent. The rest is what's he got between his ears.

Of course, I aint a high intensity big time D1 coach so what do I know?

JRutledge Wed Dec 13, 2006 01:07pm

What does any of this have to do with the topic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Your sig: Bo Schembechler tribute? Go Blue? Isn't that Michigan speak?

Huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Wasn't Weber the Illinois coach? Wouldn't a Michigan fan be happy to see the Illini be less successful?

What does Weber have to do with this story? When Illinois wins a National Championship, I will then worry about how successful they are. ;)

Peace

Mark Dexter Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Can't scout much when the player you're supposed to be scouting is on the bench with 3 fouls.

Once again, it's the damn refs' fault! :p

refnrev Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:01pm

If he's scouting a kid, what's he doing under the basket? Why not get up where he can see the entire court better?

Adam Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:11pm

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Your sig: Bo Schembechler tribute? Go Blue? Isn't that Michigan speak?

Wasn't Weber the Illinois coach? Wouldn't a Michigan fan be happy to see the Illini be less successful?

Uhm, wrong Bruce. :)

Pearl hasn't been in the Big Ten since he left the batman job at Iowa.

In fact, Pearl was at the center of a intense rivalry between Iowa and Illinois back in the day when he turned Illinois in for recruiting violations with Dion Thomas. The fact that I remember that is a testament to my geekdome.

refnrev Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:17pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Uhm, wrong Bruce. :)

In fact, Pearl was at the center of a intense rivalry between Iowa and Illinois back in the day when he turned Illinois in for recruiting violations with Dion Thomas. The fact that I remember that is a testament to my geekdome.

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Actually, in Illini country that isn't a testament to your geekdom... it would mean you have memorized required facts for all fans who root for the orange and blue.

M&M Guy Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:27pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Uhm, wrong Bruce. :)

Pearl hasn't been in the Big Ten since he left the batman job at Iowa.

In fact, Pearl was at the center of a intense rivalry between Iowa and Illinois back in the day when he turned Illinois in for recruiting violations with Dion Thomas. The fact that I remember that is a testament to my geekdome.

He turned in those "supposed" violations on the basis of an illegal wiretap.

Illinois was never penalized for those "supposed" violations, but the NCAA apparently found other reasons to penalize Illinois. So, Mr. Pearl is still villified in these parts.

Does that make me a member of the "geekdome club"?

Adam Wed Dec 13, 2006 06:44pm

I remember the fans at Carver were dangling car keys when Thomas came to play. :)

bigwes68 Wed Dec 13, 2006 08:31pm

Give the man a break.
 
First -- did anyone stop to consider that maybe he was standing under the basket because the stands might have been full by the time he got there? I mean, the man is the head coach of a fairly successful Division I basketball team. It's about a 2-hour drive from Knoxville to Chattanooga (where the game was played), and I know they had practice that afternoon.

Second -- everyone is giving Pearl a bad rap because he got asked to leave two ballgames. I know the guy that had him removed from his son's game last year and have officiated both football and softball with him, and his primary reason for ejecting Pearl was so he could go around and say, "I'm the guy that tossed Bruce Pearl." The crew chief from that game last year was on my varsity football crew this year, and he told me that there was absolutely no way he should have ever been ejected from that game, particularly since it wasn't even Pearl that was being loud, it was the guy next to him (which just happened to be former Univ. of Tennessee/NY Jets QB Pat Ryan, whose son also played on the team; Ryan admitted as much to the Knoxville newspaper).

Third -- if I ever eject someone for saying "Come on, let them play," please take my whistle and string me up by it. If an official can't be any more thick-skinned than that, he doesn't need to be working varsity high school basketball.

26 Year Gap Wed Dec 13, 2006 08:39pm

Is the geekdome near the RCA Dome?

lpneck Wed Dec 13, 2006 08:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigwes68
First -- did anyone stop to consider that maybe he was standing under the basket because the stands might have been full by the time he got there? I mean, the man is the head coach of a fairly successful Division I basketball team. It's about a 2-hour drive from Knoxville to Chattanooga (where the game was played), and I know they had practice that afternoon.

Second -- everyone is giving Pearl a bad rap because he got asked to leave two ballgames. I know the guy that had him removed from his son's game last year and have officiated both football and softball with him, and his primary reason for ejecting Pearl was so he could go around and say, "I'm the guy that tossed Bruce Pearl." The crew chief from that game last year was on my varsity football crew this year, and he told me that there was absolutely no way he should have ever been ejected from that game, particularly since it wasn't even Pearl that was being loud, it was the guy next to him (which just happened to be former Univ. of Tennessee/NY Jets QB Pat Ryan, whose son also played on the team; Ryan admitted as much to the Knoxville newspaper).

Third -- if I ever eject someone for saying "Come on, let them play," please take my whistle and string me up by it. If an official can't be any more thick-skinned than that, he doesn't need to be working varsity high school basketball.

First, the "crew chief?"

Second, would you like to bet that the official, who rightfully has not spoken about the issue, would have a different description of the incident than Coach Pearl?

Third, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...


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