Wait - you mean he never did find that rule??? :confused:

I always use the whistle to signal a technical foul except for pre-game administrative or dunking T's. A good piece of advice that I've been given is to turn or walk away from the coach before you signal the T. That way you're not as confrontational, you're not seen as provoking a response and if the coach decides to react, you've put some room between him/her and you.

The getting the partner away part I understand. The talking to the coach part is BS (with very few exceptions). I will tell a coach he must sit and then he sees my backside. The official who called the T can talk to the coach about the technical foul at the appropriate time if he/she so desires. Anything else, IMO, is consoling an adult who got what they earned and should learn from it unless they have something better to do in the locker room.

Oh, I hit the whistle and point at the offender(s) when I call a T. I would say the majority of T's call themselves (if you want to look at it that way). It probably isn't a mystery to everyone so I just call it and move on.

first off -- once you inform a coach he has to leave its up to game management to get him out -- if they cannot do this for whatever reason only then should you call the ballgame -- but take every step necessary.

Inform coach he has to leave
Inform game management he has to leave
Talk with an assistant if available
Talk to game management again

By now if none of this has worked you have no choice but to disqualify his team from participation. get out -- write it up and go home knowing you did everything you possibly could to get him to leave.

On a side note -- what if said coach returns after his ejection? If he returns to the bench -- I will hit the assistant coach with a T -- and tell him he has 10 seconds to get the ejected coach out of here or its a DQ.

I like the way you handled this.:D

The real beauty of these kinds of discussions is that we can both be very successful with our approaches :)

Just to clarify a couple points, if you already know that your partner is going to sit the coach, that's fine. The point is to get the calling official away from the coach and to give him a few seconds to calm down. A second benefit is that it can also help keep the crew from screwing up. I work with many less experienced officials, but it was a more experienced official who thought he was doing me a big favor by getting everybody quickly lined up to shoot while I was reporting a T. Only he had us shooting at the wrong basket. You can imagine how well that went over.

Second, it isn't actually necessary to go back near the coach to report. The foul reporting area is vast. If the calling official administers the T, which is the way we do it on my crews, then you can turn from your huddle, report from where you are, and hustle off to the endline to administer the free throw. The next contact that coach will have will be with your partner, putting him in an ideal position to deliver the second T if it is warranted.

I completely agree the crew needs to get together, I just don't agree with your sequence.

For me call it, report it, get away and talk to your partner seems less risky than call it, get away, talk to your partner and go back toward the coach to report...if you are using the foul reporting area that is in the manual, it isn't that vast...even if you aren't near the coach, the act of coming back and giving the T to the table, to me anyway, seems like it can be seen as an aggressive act.

In my game, we have ourselves a forfeit.

This is strictly not according to rule, deecee. Dexter has the right idea. If he tries to come back into the gym, it's a forfeit, pure and simple. There's no discretion or judgment involved.

What is this "coaches box" that you speak of? I think it's a mythical being, like Dan_ref's hair or Jurassic's sense of humor.

(Seems we've had a rash of "coaches' box" comments lately. I now have that response programmed in my auto-text.)

Shut up.

I now have that response programmed in my auto-text.

What did I miss?

(This auto-text feature really works.)

I thought you were supposed to turn those plates in.