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Old Fri Dec 29, 2006, 02:58am
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I had Fairfax in the Iolani Classic in Honolulu the week before Christmas...they squeeked out a 72 point win over a local school. How fun for us all

However, they lost their next game to Vincent HS from Milwaukee and finished 5th in the tournament. I didn't see the Vincent game but I thought Fairfax was by far the best team I saw in the tourney.
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Old Fri Dec 29, 2006, 08:01am
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Fairfax won the championship game last night over a team from Mobile, AL. Can't remember their name, but their team name is Rattlers.

I assume that the 3-man crew was local. There were 2 white guys and an African-American. They looked pretty good. Anyone from WA know who they were?
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Old Fri Dec 29, 2006, 09:03am
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I assume that the 3-man crew was local. There were 2 white guys and an African-American. They looked pretty good. Anyone from WA know who they were?
You mean 2 Euro-Americans and an African-American?

J/K folks...i was an hour late to work this morning. I needed a pick me up.
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Old Fri Dec 29, 2006, 09:55am
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You mean 2 Euro-Americans and an African-American?

J/K folks...i was an hour late to work this morning. I needed a pick me up.
No offense taken.
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Old Fri Dec 29, 2006, 03:06pm
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Looks like Ron worked the finals game with 2 woman officials, Mary Roper and Lezley Smith if I see that right. All three are great officials. This link has articles on the play.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/highschoolsports/
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 05:48pm
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Does anyone know why the shot clock wasn't used in the tourney?
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 08:08pm
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Does anyone know why the shot clock wasn't used in the tourney?
Maybe because the NFHS specifically sponsored the event, they demanded that NFHS rules be used exclusively. I'm completely guessing, but if I were representing the NFHS, that's what I'd do.
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 09:35pm
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Someone asked me on another board, so I'm attempting to get a firm answer.
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 04:47am
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correctable error

Ron,

You guys had a correctable error in the first half of your game. Just curious as to the order you shot the free throws and resumed play.
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 07:56am
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I was curious the same thing, and the reasoning/discussion that went into the decision making process--I know the Collins Hill coach didn't question it, but from what I saw, I think it was done backwards--the girl with the "and 1" should've had the lane filled as the POI, and Moore should've shot the bonus free throws with an empty lane if I saw the play correctly.
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I taped the game and I will do my evaluation at the end! Good luck.
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 01:59pm
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Ron,

You guys had a correctable error in the first half of your game. Just curious as to the order you shot the free throws and resumed play.
Let us know a bit more with what happen on this play?
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I think we did it wrong.

Finished the and one first the went back to the 1 and 1.

Looking back I think we should have shot the 1 and 1 with no one in the lane then back to the "And 1" and played on from there......

15 years doing this and my first correctable error ever......

Me thinks we goofed......
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 04:14pm
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And isn't it wonderful that it occurred in a TV game for all to see.

Very big of you to share and admit a mistake, Ron. We all learn from each other here. Thanks.

PS What info do you have regarding Tony's question on the lack of a shot clock in that tourney?
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My Eval of the game

I watched the game and here is my eval. I think the officials did a wonderful job. I will be putting it on DVD for a training DVD for my fellow officials here in VA. It had a little bit of everything:

Time 6:12, First Quarter:

Good carry call. That was an excellent call. #5 was okay until that carry.

5:65, First Quarter:

Crash, No call. I replayed it back a couple of times and felt there should had been a whistle. #42 clearly had position and in my opinion there should have been a PC call.

49.2, First Quarter:

On the back call (good call), but she was clearly on the floor and it should have been an out of bounds spot. Team was not in the bonus, so therefore there should have not been any shots. 2 shots were given. I believe one of the female officials was talking to the coach about that and he was trying to explain that she was not in the act of shooting.

42.0, First Quarter:

There was a steal and a push in the back causing the player to go to the floor. In my opinion, that should have been an intentional foul. There was no play for the ball at all. It was also the teams 7th foul and should have been 1 & 1 shooting. The ball was spotted out of bounds.

24.0, First Quarter:

The slot should have had a whistle on this play, but the lead came across the paint to get it. It was a good pickup call, but I think the C should have got it. Good job lead!!!

24.0, First Quarter:

Correctable Error discoverd:

Failure to award a merited free throw. It was discovered no later than during the first dead ball, before the second live ball.

Should have went back to the 1-1 first, and then to the point of interuption which would have been the 1 shot left on the and-1, #5 shooting.

Second Quarter

5:54

Double Dribble or travel possible. Hard to say.

4:20

I would have passed on that foul. No much contact at all.

3:47

The Slot, no call. Lead had to come from the opposite side of the court to make the call. Lead needs to close down if a call is going to made like that. Slot needs to be strong.

3:20

Red #5 walked, no jump ball.

1:25

Jump ball situation, timeout should not have been given.

Third Quarter

7:02

Walk on Red #5. passed on the walk and called the hand check and game her continuation to the basket (NBA?) Should have been on the floor.


Nothing else worth talking about. This is just my opinion of what I saw in the game and I know that its easy to sit on the couch and evaluate. So, good job all 3 officials and I hope yall can get a tape or DVD to review. I am going to share this with my buddies so we can get better as well.
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